rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 12 Jun 2012 07:03 - 8353 of 8356

chuckles is clearly a very clever chap indeed .... even if he made no money on last night's escapade, he did unbelievably well .....

Yes cynic, you should say clever, but then I have given you three trades, of which two banked 100 plus points each and the third a few.

I only post on here cos I'am a fan of davais (and then) from another site. Mind you, all this elliot wave stuff does make me chuckle.

PS You might want to consider buying some squids as opposed to green backs, but wait a bit first mind.

thanks, but i pretty much follow my own inclination and have never understood trading forex and have always avoided .... btw, i have also know davai for a number of years

There's a strong possibility of us having been in an irregular 4th corrective wave, of which we may have finished at the high on Sunday night. The drop and subsequent rebound therefore would be Waves 1&2 of the next move down. If so we might be getting close to the turn now and things might start to look horrible again soon...



We are sat on the 50% retrace right now, i will run a few fibs in a mo to try to get a better picture. The FTSE version of above looks far more obvious.

*Edit*

Christ, as unlikely as it looked, i am now sure the above is correct. Wave 'B' is 200% of 'A' and wave 'C' is 261.8% (very popular) length of 'A'. In my opinion we have several hundred points to drop over the coming couple of weeks...

Lots of 'mights' in there. Can we have a few more 'definitely wills' please? ;o)

Just edited the above Harry! ^^^

But you do need to read the caveat on my thread! Its all just an opinion based on my experience. I actually don't trade this stuff freestyle, i use a system which although relies on the overall direction being correct, is on a much shorter time frame. HH's and LL's is all that ultimately matters!

Enter Brucie stage left :-)

I can't give the game away, but here's an example;

First the HH, then the abc pullback to form a flag. If it breaks in a certain way, i get a trigger and can work out my target which is always a Risk:Reward of 1:1, but very high probability. From entry, you can see we took a little 'heat' but just a standard retest of the flagline before going up to target;

Just teasing Davai! Keep going and don't mind me! Always interested in other's statagies.

Fabulous Davai, any chance of posting your entry,target and stop just to be certain mate :O)

i am a cautious wuss for once so have banked my useful dow long profit

Combining Elliott wave again with my system. First, the HH, then an 'X' wave pullback, followed by an irregular ABC, the key is recognising the 3-3-5 structure of the ABC. wave 'C' is always a 5w move. Breakout of the flagline, trigger and target. Note the retest of the flagline after trigger again to finish subwave 'ii';



These EW doubters! It is the only way to trade (imo), forgive me while i 'chuckle'! ;)

davai - my own "guru" uses GANN theory, which is at least as effective, and certainly he suggests plenty more upside for dow ...... however, i decided i would rather bank the profit for now and perhaps trade again (or not) in due course ...... but have leave my (new) holding in AAPL to run - this and GOOG are the 2 stocks i trade on nasdaq

davai / chuckles - would you concur that it will be an no-brainer short on friday just ahead of the elections in greece?

You would think so Cynic wouldn't you, that's probably reason enough to be cautious!
I'm purely chartist and take no notice whatsoever of news, imo it makes no difference to the path of the markets, merely speeds it up or slows it down...

having banked my small profit in AAPL and opened a small short on dow 12510 - bit late as had been out of the office

I'm considering going short on the DOW also. The DAX is another interesting one having bounced off 6000 support.

Cynic. Is there such a thing as a no brainer in the markets? Much like Davai, he is a one, I don't trade the newss. How many times do punters moan about stocks that don't do what they expect on good or bad news? Markets are usually the same, often already priced in or a subtle element that the average joe knows nothing about comes into play. I'm not entirely sure about the Indicies right now, but £££££££s should show some strength.

perhaps but as i never understand trading currencies, i'll stick with indices when the mood takes .... anyway, just back in the money, even if i got the initial timing a bit squiffy

Just out of interest cynic - where was your stop?

Nokia to cut 10,000 jobs after weaker second-quarter

PARIS | Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:47am BST
(Reuters) - Loss-making Finnish cellphone maker Nokia (NOK1V.HE) plans to cut another 10,000 jobs globally and warned the second-quarter loss from its cellphone business would be larger than expected.

The cuts bring total planned job cuts at the group since Stephen Elop took over as chief executive in September 2010 to more than 40,000.

Nokia said it would book additional restructuring charges of around 1 billion euros ($1.3 billion) by the end of 2013.

Spain's borrowing costs at fresh high after Moody's cut

Spain's borrowing costs have risen to another euro-era record, with lenders demanding a higher interest rate.

The yield on benchmark 10-year bonds hit 7% on Thursday morning, a level which many analysts believe is unsustainable in the long term.

It came as Moody's cut Spain's credit rating to one notch above "junk" and ahead of an Italian bond auction.

Italy also saw borrowing costs rise, selling bonds repayable in three years with a yield of 5.3%, up from 3.9%.