overgrowth
- 06 Oct 2003 22:47
bmw325
- 26 May 2007 14:17
- 837 of 2037
Dave the Rave...is it going to rain in Naples.
Look out for the rats.....LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
proteus
- 26 May 2007 15:37
- 838 of 2037
There are 4 brokers covering this share Numis,Seymore Pierce,Shore Capital and Wood &Co. Three have it as Strong Buy the 4th has not put out a note recently.You seem to be running against the market view 10B.
David10B
- 26 May 2007 15:42
- 839 of 2037
Probably so.
However if NUMIS caught a cold then the others must be sneezing right now too, and the fouth in quarantine---just in case!
But that said, surely you mean the brokers are out of step with the market!
I said the price will go down and it was the market, not the brokers' hype, that obliged me with a fall in the COH SP
proteus
- 26 May 2007 15:43
- 840 of 2037
If you think they should be making 1k / week net that is 3.38m on their present 65 stores and 4.68m on the forcast 90 stores for next year. With a rapidly growing company that would support a P/E of say 25.On that basis the share price would now be 82p + and based on looking a year ahead which is the min time that markets look at they would be 100p +. Seems as if your expectation of 1k / store is excessive.
proteus
- 26 May 2007 15:46
- 841 of 2037
A month ago it was 1 buy /1 sell so the recent correction has made 1 change its mind and another to come in with a strong buy.Are they all wrong in thinking that at this price it's very good value ?
David10B
- 26 May 2007 15:54
- 842 of 2037
Come. come, come my dear chap, back street pubs make that kind of money, otherwise what is the point of opening?
You may as well get a roofing job
SEE WHAT A SUB SANIE STORE MAKES!
David10B
- 26 May 2007 15:56
- 843 of 2037
A month ago it was held up on hype, now the market has obviously corrected it!
bmw325
- 26 May 2007 16:06
- 844 of 2037
Dave the Rave...this will be back to 40p+ very soon, where as CFE will go down when the news dries up.
Have a nice day.
David10B
- 26 May 2007 16:11
- 845 of 2037
Be nice just to wait and see.
bmw325
- 26 May 2007 16:16
- 846 of 2037
Well I'm off for an afternoon tipple....but I will be back.
David10B
- 26 May 2007 16:18
- 847 of 2037
Please do enjoy one and have one for me.
proteus
- 26 May 2007 16:31
- 848 of 2037
Maybe you should make 1k / week net in the UK who knows. It's interesting to note the Polish GDP / head last year was $14100 vs UK at $31400.If you apply that ratio to the 1k week it works back to a fair price of 45p based on next years earnings.The market always over/under shoots so it overshot at 50p and has now dropped back too far at 37p.I think without checking the Numis figure for store numbers in 2010/2011 that would also fit with their 1 target.
David10B
- 26 May 2007 17:27
- 849 of 2037
Yes I know the figures thanks, but also I am fully aware of COH statement that the former Eastern Bloc are prepared to spend to emulate the Western life style, and it has become so very fasionable to enjoy the smell and taste of coffee, that why I suppose there are so many new stores opening up there-
alanatml2
- 27 May 2007 13:16
- 850 of 2037
There was a recent ussue of shares at 43p which was fully taken up. This was followed by a major shareholder taking profits by placing 10million shares on the market which I believe caused the recent downturn. Insider info has not been suspected.
However it has been reported that Lehmans has taken around 3.5% of the shares and their influence should become apparent as they are said to be 'advisers' to STARBUCKS'. COH reports significant growth and is cash positive to take the company forward following the recent dip. I hold.
David10B
- 27 May 2007 13:31
- 851 of 2037
Bravely spoken! Your money Sir, is by far the braver when sided with mine.
AdieH
- 27 May 2007 14:48
- 852 of 2037
Well said...
proteus
- 27 May 2007 14:58
- 853 of 2037
So 10B, When can we have the next year or two's forcasts to discuss ?
David10B
- 27 May 2007 15:59
- 854 of 2037
I have given you what I think the state of play should be.
Nothing further to add.
If they cant reach a 1000 pounds per store NETT, then for my money they are in the wrong game.
Looks like a night down the pub tonight so have fun chaps.
proteus
- 27 May 2007 16:01
- 855 of 2037
In other words you haven't a clue how to do any analysis.Sir you are a fraud.
David10B
- 27 May 2007 16:27
- 856 of 2037
What ever you may think please think it, it would appear based on your observations NUMIS is in the same boat also.
Look my simplistc friend there is enough information floating around these BB to write a book on a Fundamental or Technical analysis of COH.
I prefer the former.You dont seem happy with that so thats that.
Using my analysis I have concluded that COH needs to go a lot further in aggressively marketing its product and brand name as it is in danger of losing the little market share it currently enjoys. You do not appear happy with that so thats that.
I have conclude that a 1000 pounds per week NETT per store should be an achieveable meab average, and that COH is working way below the achievement that perhaps a more innovated management style would demand.
The figuers banded about by Numis for 2011 are there for all to see and need no further illuminatation. However without a profit history they are pure conjecture and highly speculativeas I believe that for COH faced with increasing competition it will be reaching for the sky without an areoplane.
I do not believe in making highly speculative posts based on outlandish prefabricated models which tend to churn out whatever figure one may convenient desire.
However if you want projections for a decent company such as MLR I will be more than happy to furnish them. My COH projections would make me look rather foolish when considring NUMIS and other and what is already on iii.
However I am more than happy to be a minority
If that makes me a fraud then so be it, I am also happy to be one.