chartist2004
- 15 Apr 2004 12:02
The tiny Irish stock on the brink of landing 'the first' post-sanction oil deal in Iraq. Ref 'Fleet Street Letter' 12-04-04..
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 13:59
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Will we get an RNS regarding this, as it knocks on the head any contract announcement sooner than next month, probably later on if the offers are to be resubmitted? Oh this is dragging on!
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 14:08
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Pretty much all sells since that news...
willfagg
- 28 Oct 2004 14:12
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I do not think this is bad news. Just a small point "next month" starts in 3 days!If we did get an RNS which said how few companies were involved or gave pointers to PET being in pole position it would give the share price a shot in the arm(IMO)
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 14:15
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No it's not bad news, but I think if they have to re submit and those have to be checked and they need to talk again, it will be later rather than sooner.
Which is a pity cos my job finishes today and I have no job to go to and no money and a house to run!!!
gra1969
- 28 Oct 2004 14:16
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Ive just topped up some more! any sign of weakness or impatience is a sign for me to add to this stock! long live those with faint hearts, every time they sell i top up. When they are announced, ill have a nice bottle of Krug on them!
johngtudor
- 28 Oct 2004 14:16
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Tokyo: IMO the story has not changed. We do know that PET is one of the companies involved in the bidding and the only questions centre on why they have been asked to re-submit the bid/s...suggestion is because it is going to be risk sharing (Good news)... and of course when will the deal be signed, and announced? Well I did read on this BB that we were looking at a November announcement, and that still seems to be in the timeframe. So we will all have to be a little patient as these things take time. If some people (traders looking for a very quick profit) decide to sell on this news...good news again as we can all buy some more at a lower price!! Live the dream! John
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 14:18
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If we have any money left...
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 14:27
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107606 - hang in there buddy, if this really is a risk sharing agreement, then your shares are gonna be worth a lot more in November, when they sign the contract...well that is still up in the air, in light of this article, and I know a few people have said they have e-mailed this to PET, they will probably now have to comment on it, and if the words "possible risk sharing deal" are mentioned, I would think it will be going back to 150 very soon before any confirmed contract news. Look back through old PET news and you'll see DH said that if given the oppurtunity they would elict for Risk sharing agreements, the Japanese firm are after crude, it all seems to come together. We could be getting some sort of news very soon
All IMHO
Tokyo
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 14:42
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Ill eat rocks and soil till then...
willfagg
- 28 Oct 2004 14:47
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evry sympathy 107606..You should do whats right for your position.If you have a lot invested it could be your salvation or your downfall. Been where you are , got the tee shirt. Good Luck
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 14:49
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I havent got a huge investment, just enough to make a tidy return when the time comes, but not too much that I will die in abject poverty if the unthinkable happens! Just need another job...
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 14:49
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willfagg were you the one who knows Diss?
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 14:54
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another post from the other side, just posted but it sort of mirrors what I said earlier(but in more detail), hope this helps 107606.
1: Head of the State Company for Oil Projects, Ahmed al-Shammaa, said two upstream contracts for the development of the Khormala Dome, in northern Iraq near Kirkuk, and Hemrin, northeast of Baghdad, were discussed in Amman this week with international energy firms.
= More than 1 firm. (if quote is correct).
2: "In light of these discussions, companies will submit new offers concerning the development of the two fields and we are expected to sign contracts next month,"
= Why submit new offers? SEEMS NEW TERMS AGREED..IF HAPPY SIGN REVISED TERMS THAT HAVE COME FROM DISCUSSION!
= Risk sharing available so cut down your capital costs you are charging us.
= New terms agreed in principle ie re risk sharing. Go back to your lawyers, backers and company heads and agree if acceptable.
Iraq hasn't the time to mess about because they need new oil on stream and they need the majors in. Likewise you don't have a look at the tenders and say hey you are too expensive go away and give us a new price AT THIS LATE STAGE.
Horgan went to Iraq determined to seek Risk sharing agreements as the better option. He had a Japanese investment house with $250m backing in exchange for crude. Are the Iraqis going to turn a way crucial outside investment when last week Allawi said the best way forward was for risk sharing agreements. The Japs and others have probably said look more big investment would follow!
The majors aren't going to come in for crumbs or a pittance and Iraq will need to show that, in what they hand Pet or the other company (if there is one). It's likely more than one company because with the insurgency risk Iraq won't put all it's eggs in one basket.
The above is why no RNS from Pet and I think they are more than happy at this stage.
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 15:00
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Cheers Tokyo, you're a good man (I think...)!
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 15:12
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Cheers 107606 - I try to be, but we are all gonna need balls of steel to hold on to this, as the MM's are now gonna try every trick in the book to get your shares, if a risk sharing agreement is truly on the table, then PET are going to be targeted by the big boys later.
IMHO
Tokyo
EWRobson
- 28 Oct 2004 15:19
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Tokyo
You comment above that the implication of discussion with 'international energy companies' implied more than one firm - but it could be read as a consortium of firms, rather than competitive bids. If there were still competitive bids it is difficult to see how the whole matter could be resolved within a month. To me, one month is only time to finalise contracts with a preferred bidder. Would not Petrel be accompanied by risk-sharing partners last week?
Eric
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 15:31
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Hey Eric - Petrel reported a while ago that they were in a joint venture on another project with a canadian oil company (can't remember the name, perhaps dexter can remember it), they have also stated " we concluded an agreement with the Jordanian NRA to use their core samples for various modern techniques including fission-track analysis. The results will be shared with both Jordanian and Iraqi authorities."
perhaps the three together? Until they issue an RNS there is very little proof around, but we can of course speculate.
Tokyo
joehargan1
- 28 Oct 2004 15:37
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The delay created by resubmission of bids will only fuel more uncertainty short term but the risk sharing part longer term is a clear opportunity. Also bear in mind that a lot can happen in a month, especially in Iraq and I think that the sp will be impacted by a drift downwards on this news and the speculation (re. competition)it will inevitably create. For those of us into PET early, holding on for the big prize still seems like the right decision but we could be in for a very bumpy ride, especially in the absence of an interim RNS from PET. A positive statement to help calm the nerves would be more than welcome.
johngtudor
- 28 Oct 2004 15:37
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Eric/Tokyo: I do believe that if PET were out of the bidding process we would by now have had an RNS. At this stage and I agree 100% with Eric on this, there is only time to finalise contracts if they plan to announce in November. So it certainly looks as though PET have something...we just do not know what at this stage. Patience is called for and I do believe we can expect very good news in due course. John
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 15:45
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Eric - here is the name of the company and the web site address
Heritage Oil
www.heritageoilcorp.com