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Is it time that Blair who is a close friend and confidant of Bush were tried for War Crimes? (WAR2)     

Fred1new - 07 Dec 2005 16:40

This board has been a little to quiet for while.

Is it time that Bush and Blair who is a close friend and confidant of Bush were tried for War Crimes?

Do you think the use by the American Administrations of renditions are War Crimes and committed with full knowledge of American and British leaders ie. Blair and Bush and they are ultimately responsible?

Also in the aftermath of the illegal invasion of Iraq are should their action seen to be as the provocation for the rising toll of British, American and Iraqi deaths.

As a result of the military intervention in Iraq do you think you are safer in Britain to-day?

Do you think one should expect government leaders and ministers who have been responsible for massive foreseeable casualties should visit the hospitals to meet the casualties they have produced directly or indirectly by their actions?

aldwickk - 14 Sep 2006 07:30 - 849 of 1327

Someone emailed it to me this morning, haven't tried the microsoft word bit yet.

maestro - 14 Sep 2006 07:36 - 850 of 1327

i wouldn't worry about it...just stick to the facts that 911 was an inside job...WTC7 pulled by Controlled Demolition aka Silverstein

hewittalan6 - 14 Sep 2006 07:40 - 851 of 1327

WTC7 was allowed to collapse according to the NYFD chiefs, as they did not have the manpower to fight the fire therein, and there was no danger to anyone if it did. It would have had to have been pulled down anyway, even if it had survived, as the intensity of the fire had made it structurally unsafe.

aldwickk - 14 Sep 2006 08:00 - 852 of 1327

If they wanted to provoke a war , it would have been more easy to use misinformation about a planed attack on the twin towers and the white house then go to the risky plan of blowing them up, the amount of people that would need to be in the know and the backlash if the plot was discovered makes it a non starter

maestro - 14 Sep 2006 08:41 - 853 of 1327

lol! dream on guys!

hewittalan6 - 14 Sep 2006 08:46 - 854 of 1327

So where does Elvis fit into this??

maestro - 14 Sep 2006 08:54 - 855 of 1327

hewitt..the reason you don't want the truth out is because you are comfortable in your own little world and don't want to rock the boat...i see people like you everywhere,think more of their BMW than humanity...queueing up on sunday afternoons waiting for their cars to be washed

hewittalan6 - 14 Sep 2006 09:07 - 856 of 1327

Jaguar actually............
No. You are wrong. just because you assert that it is the truth, it does not make it so.
The evidence for what you believe is shaky at best.
The point I was making was that the world is full of barmpots who are willing to believe anything that shows some kind of conspiracy. They devote their lives to looking for evidence to support it, and very often they actually find some. This is not suprising because if you set out to prove something, then you will find supporters of the nudge nudge, wink wink persuasion, and you will find anomolies.
Scientists recognise this fact and they set out to disprove theories. They also use Occrams Razor where more than one possibility presents itself.
The evidence for WTC7 is simply that you and a few others do not believe it!! this is of no great shock in a country where over 50% of the population believe they have had close encounters with Aliens, JFK was shot by "Badgeman", the world is run by a secret society called the illuminati, Elvis is alive and well and a CIA agent, and, best of all, There is a department within the US government that conspires to start conspiracy theories!!
There really is no possible way that any administration would go to those lengths, and take the enormous risks involved (given that the inner circle of those who knew beforehand would be enormous) to start a war they could do by simpler methods (Single assasination, destabilising the regime to the point of civil war, shooting down a single US aircraft etc.). One president was impeached for a single interview, another for getting a blow job from his secretary!! The risks are too high.
Alan

aldwickk - 14 Sep 2006 10:08 - 857 of 1327

We seem to agree on something, thats a first. ps note i didn't spell it thirst.

Fred1new - 14 Sep 2006 10:09 - 858 of 1327

H6. I have to agree with once more. America administration would stick with the tools it has being using for years, "Single assassination, destabilising the regime to the point of civil war," Perhaps, I would make it multiple assassinations with blackmail and corruption". The chosen methods of a true democracy.

maestro - 14 Sep 2006 10:57 - 859 of 1327

I give up!

zscrooge - 14 Sep 2006 11:43 - 860 of 1327

Maestro is paranoid racist (anti Jewish) with no financial acumen whatsoever. Filtered by many here and elsewhere.

barwoni - 14 Sep 2006 12:11 - 861 of 1327

Correct! Also add, some of the threads he has started on moneys competitor adv are beyond belief, check them out! He is one sicko.......

aldwickk - 14 Sep 2006 12:29 - 862 of 1327

.delete

axdpc - 15 Sep 2006 12:35 - 863 of 1327

'Many years ago there lived an emperor who was quite an average fairy tale ruler, with one exception: he cared much about his clothes. One day he heard from two swindlers named Guido and Luigi Farabutto that they could make the finest suit of clothes from the most beautiful cloth. This cloth, they said, also had the special capability that it was invisible to anyone who was either stupid or not fit for his position.

Being a bit nervous about whether he himself would be able to see the cloth, the emperor first sent two of his trusted men to see it. Of course, neither would admit that they could not see the cloth and so praised it. All the townspeople had also heard of the cloth and were interested to learn how stupid their neighbors were.

The emperor then allowed himself to be dressed in the clothes for a procession through town, never admitting that he was too unfit and stupid to see what he was wearing. For he was afraid that the other people would think that he was stupid.

Of course, all the townspeople wildly praised the magnificent clothes of the emperor, afraid to admit that they could not see them, until a small child said:

"But he has nothing on!"

This was whispered from person to person until everyone in the crowd was shouting that the emperor had nothing on. The emperor heard it and felt that they were correct, but held his head high and finished the procession.'

- by Hans Christian Andersen in 1837

Fred1new - 15 Sep 2006 13:42 - 864 of 1327

Blair 2006

axdpc - 15 Sep 2006 18:02 - 865 of 1327

Fred,

IMHO, Blair is
... a victim of his own vainglory.
... neither less nor more evil or saintly than the next man.
... a master spin-master deceived.
... befriended, nurtured and flattered into obedience and submission.

The King's New Clothes are in every walks of life, not just in politics.
People kept forgetting that the flatters are always ready to slander against them, if the price is right.

Only IMHO ...

maestro - 15 Sep 2006 20:08 - 866 of 1327

so if you say 911 was an inside job on here you are classed as a sicko...strange people on here...

maestro - 15 Sep 2006 21:58 - 867 of 1327

nice to know there are a few good Americans still...
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

Fred1new - 15 Sep 2006 22:17 - 868 of 1327

Oh there are, but they are being abused by their present leadership at the moment.

The only thing which perplexes me for a relatively educated population they seem to be indoctrinated by the belief in the leadership. ie. the president and his cronies.

It seems to me frightenly like some of the German population in the 1930 - 45 period. Following the state policies.
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