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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:22

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

sniffer - 10 Jan 2009 01:24 - 85 of 94

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NGWlSMFNRag

Dil - 10 Jan 2009 01:38 - 86 of 94

Oh ffs guys calm down , Israelies and Palestinians will be dancing in the streets hand in hand long before we get a "ceasefire" on here if you don't all chill out.


xxx

Dil - 10 Jan 2009 01:41 - 87 of 94

And don't start about burning flags after what you told me Gausie :-)

Gausie - 10 Jan 2009 01:54 - 88 of 94

Welsh flags don't count.

Dil - 10 Jan 2009 08:25 - 89 of 94

B*llox :-)

required field - 10 Jan 2009 10:08 - 90 of 94

Fred1new.....for a start : 2 threads...ridiculous, it makes obvious sense that not everybody must be allowed to develop the atomic bomb, if that happens we are heading for a disaster..."you cannot give small boys guns to play with !", and as long as Hamas want to destroy Israel and use force then there will always be trouble, and even though the Israeli forces seem to be missing targets and hitting civilian areas they have no right to moan about them fighting back !.

Fred1new - 10 Jan 2009 13:14 - 91 of 94

Pholden, Why don't you read what is written, then engage you brain and think of its content before you respond. Your position seems to me that of an unreasoning zealot. I was making an observation and have no allegiance to either party in the present Middle East conflict.

I am not alone in thinking that many of the problems in international politics is due to the patronising positions taken by the present wealthier nations in regard to the smaller and poorer nations.

These countries are often recognisable and supported by racial or religious aspects of those societies as well as geographical. The polarisation of the different groups is often around a racial or religious symbol. As an example, look at the break up of old Yugoslavia, where the genetic base of the country was similar in all areas and the majority of the population were Agnostic. Here politicians, manipulated the people of that country to group ethnically around various totem poles ie Catholic, Orthodox or Moslem. The Moslems were sometimes only recognisable by the variation of surnames, from the other groups. Large numbers each of these groups were integrated by marriage previous to this debacle. I wont go into the political power bases of the various groups. The fragmentation of old Yugoslavia as outcome of the recent war has been of little value to the majority of the people of that country.

Returning to the Middle East.
It is interesting that at the moment that is Israel, previously with the protection of America, continues to try to dictate to the Palestinians what they should do, while not respecting the mandates of the United Nations when applied to themselves. If they start negotiating as equals with mutual respect, it maybe possible to have a lasting peace, which would be beneficial to the Israeli and Palestinian people.

From their own history, the Israel should realise that you cant wipe out or subject another race by primitive violent action. The grievances and problems are there to be resolved.

The majority of the world, is condemning Israel for its disproportionate use of force.

The majority of the humanitarian aid bodies are condemning Israels actions.

If Israel faces up to accepting the United Nations mandates and carries out necessary steps to instigate them, then it is probable that there will be a peace in this area.


Fred1new - 10 Jan 2009 13:27 - 92 of 94

The chant of "Hamas" has be firing rockets into Israel for 8years has a certain truth. Perhaps, if the Israelis had negotiated positively and honestly and applied the appropriate mandates during this the 8year period, the situation may not have deteriorated to the present state of affairs.

cynic - 10 Jan 2009 13:28 - 93 of 94

why do we need two threads on this same subject?

Fred1new - 10 Jan 2009 17:36 - 94 of 94

Just for you cynic, Gives you two chances to get it right! 8-)

I have copied this reference again, just in case some have missed. I am glad I am not as isolated in my views as suggested.

Thanks for drawing my attention to it!

It is a reasonable assessment. Perhaps even for Gausie

Eyes in the back of your head.

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2008/historical-amnesia-gaza-p1.php






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