chartist2004
- 15 Apr 2004 12:02
The tiny Irish stock on the brink of landing 'the first' post-sanction oil deal in Iraq. Ref 'Fleet Street Letter' 12-04-04..
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 14:49
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willfagg were you the one who knows Diss?
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 14:54
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another post from the other side, just posted but it sort of mirrors what I said earlier(but in more detail), hope this helps 107606.
1: Head of the State Company for Oil Projects, Ahmed al-Shammaa, said two upstream contracts for the development of the Khormala Dome, in northern Iraq near Kirkuk, and Hemrin, northeast of Baghdad, were discussed in Amman this week with international energy firms.
= More than 1 firm. (if quote is correct).
2: "In light of these discussions, companies will submit new offers concerning the development of the two fields and we are expected to sign contracts next month,"
= Why submit new offers? SEEMS NEW TERMS AGREED..IF HAPPY SIGN REVISED TERMS THAT HAVE COME FROM DISCUSSION!
= Risk sharing available so cut down your capital costs you are charging us.
= New terms agreed in principle ie re risk sharing. Go back to your lawyers, backers and company heads and agree if acceptable.
Iraq hasn't the time to mess about because they need new oil on stream and they need the majors in. Likewise you don't have a look at the tenders and say hey you are too expensive go away and give us a new price AT THIS LATE STAGE.
Horgan went to Iraq determined to seek Risk sharing agreements as the better option. He had a Japanese investment house with $250m backing in exchange for crude. Are the Iraqis going to turn a way crucial outside investment when last week Allawi said the best way forward was for risk sharing agreements. The Japs and others have probably said look more big investment would follow!
The majors aren't going to come in for crumbs or a pittance and Iraq will need to show that, in what they hand Pet or the other company (if there is one). It's likely more than one company because with the insurgency risk Iraq won't put all it's eggs in one basket.
The above is why no RNS from Pet and I think they are more than happy at this stage.
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 15:00
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Cheers Tokyo, you're a good man (I think...)!
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 15:12
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Cheers 107606 - I try to be, but we are all gonna need balls of steel to hold on to this, as the MM's are now gonna try every trick in the book to get your shares, if a risk sharing agreement is truly on the table, then PET are going to be targeted by the big boys later.
IMHO
Tokyo
EWRobson
- 28 Oct 2004 15:19
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Tokyo
You comment above that the implication of discussion with 'international energy companies' implied more than one firm - but it could be read as a consortium of firms, rather than competitive bids. If there were still competitive bids it is difficult to see how the whole matter could be resolved within a month. To me, one month is only time to finalise contracts with a preferred bidder. Would not Petrel be accompanied by risk-sharing partners last week?
Eric
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 15:31
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Hey Eric - Petrel reported a while ago that they were in a joint venture on another project with a canadian oil company (can't remember the name, perhaps dexter can remember it), they have also stated " we concluded an agreement with the Jordanian NRA to use their core samples for various modern techniques including fission-track analysis. The results will be shared with both Jordanian and Iraqi authorities."
perhaps the three together? Until they issue an RNS there is very little proof around, but we can of course speculate.
Tokyo
joehargan1
- 28 Oct 2004 15:37
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The delay created by resubmission of bids will only fuel more uncertainty short term but the risk sharing part longer term is a clear opportunity. Also bear in mind that a lot can happen in a month, especially in Iraq and I think that the sp will be impacted by a drift downwards on this news and the speculation (re. competition)it will inevitably create. For those of us into PET early, holding on for the big prize still seems like the right decision but we could be in for a very bumpy ride, especially in the absence of an interim RNS from PET. A positive statement to help calm the nerves would be more than welcome.
johngtudor
- 28 Oct 2004 15:37
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Eric/Tokyo: I do believe that if PET were out of the bidding process we would by now have had an RNS. At this stage and I agree 100% with Eric on this, there is only time to finalise contracts if they plan to announce in November. So it certainly looks as though PET have something...we just do not know what at this stage. Patience is called for and I do believe we can expect very good news in due course. John
Tokyo
- 28 Oct 2004 15:45
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Eric - here is the name of the company and the web site address
Heritage Oil
www.heritageoilcorp.com
107606
- 28 Oct 2004 16:05
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I think the best option is to close ones eyes and hope for the best, watching the price drop and rise will unnerve even the most steely of us!
piston broke
- 28 Oct 2004 16:19
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guys...as the Iraq Oil Ministry said contracts will be signed next month, that in itself is a positive sign as I believe that is the first time they have actually made a statement as positive as that. All other statements have come from websites or news releases without actually putting the name of the Iraq Oil Ministry against them...correct me if I am wrong.
Another positive is that next month is just a couple of days away.
Sure we do not enjoy reading todays statement , but it could be taken as news in the right direction.
be lucky piston broke
gra1969
- 28 Oct 2004 16:44
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This stock did the same last week! the tree shaking will continue as long as there is no RNS and conjecture. I an holding and taking each down turn as a sign to add, i am as so many are, waiting with baited breath.
gra1969
- 28 Oct 2004 17:20
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definately over sold today! mostly on low volume too!!!!!!!!!!!
EWRobson
- 28 Oct 2004 18:03
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Tokyo et al
My argument for it being down to a single tender was based partly on the time factor, as per johngtudor, and partly on their preferred risk-sharing approach. If they are sharing the risk, and therefore the revenue and profits, then I would have thought Petrel would have fielded the team last week in Iraq. I can't recall any post that implies that but Horgan seems a shrewd cookie and he is going to play his strongest hand.
Eric
dexter01
- 28 Oct 2004 18:32
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Evening all
Regarding Tokyo`s post from Dow Jones newswire,although it said "companies",the article only mentioned PET by name, although the ministry spokesman declined to name anyone. The thing i find strange is that no news co. seems to know who the other bidders are, nothing can be found on the web re; Dome and Everasia, and pet have told me that they officially don`t know who the competition is.So i think it could be a case of PET and possibly Heritage oil going in together IMO only.
goodnight ,
Dexter
wilbs
- 28 Oct 2004 19:30
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Hi all.
107606
It was me, wilbs who lives and went to school in Diss.
Does anyone think that maybe Panandean maybe involves with pet in Iraq as they said in their AGM that they had interests in the middle east? Block 6?
Maybe im barking up the wrong tree?
Any thoughts?
wilbs
sandrew64
- 28 Oct 2004 19:52
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I wondered if they knew their feet were firmly under the table with PET, so began discussions on future projects including PRE as well.
wilbs
- 28 Oct 2004 21:12
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I agree sandrew64.
I posted a post some time ago on this or another BB(I cant remember which as it was a while ago) about PET maybe using PRE in Iraq. It makes sence to keep it in the family as so to speak.
Any thoughts Toyko, dexter, 107606, sandrew64 and anybody else????
wilbs
GRAEME.ALEXANDER
- 29 Oct 2004 03:37
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"http://www.moneyam.com/action/news/showArticle?id=489554"> AFX NEWS.
This is a link to an article about investigations by the FBI to do with the award of the contract to restore oil to Iraq being awarded to Halliburton He was referring to the so-called 'Restore Iraqi Oil' contract, a no-bid contract worth up to 7 bln usd that was secretly awarded to Halliburton subsidiary Kellog Brown and Root before the Iraq war.
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Could this be more news in our favor.Its now even more important to be seen to do the right thing..........
Any one care to pass comment with regards to if this is good or not relevent for PETs chances........Graeme.
gra1969
- 29 Oct 2004 07:19
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thought this may be of interest guys.
Sonoran Energy Forms Partnership in Iraq
Sonoran Energy has signed a Memorandum of Understanding ("MOU") with a company operating in Iraq to develop oil and gas opportunities in Iraq. The initial MOU with Al Azharan Group will lead to the establishment of a partnership operation specializing in the oil and gas exploration and production activities within this lucrative Iraqi market.
more...
28 October 2004 from oilvoice.com
Any relevance gained im not sure, but may be of use!