This board has been a little to quiet for while.

Is it time that Bush and Blair who is a close friend and confidant of Bush were tried for War Crimes?

Do you think the use by the American Administrations of renditions are War Crimes and committed with full knowledge of American and British leaders ie. Blair and Bush and they are ultimately responsible?

Also in the aftermath of the illegal invasion of Iraq are should their action seen to be as the provocation for the rising toll of British, American and Iraqi deaths.

As a result of the military intervention in Iraq do you think you are safer in Britain to-day?

Do you think one should expect government leaders and ministers who have been responsible for massive foreseeable casualties should visit the hospitals to meet the casualties they have produced directly or indirectly by their actions?

Jaguar actually............
No. You are wrong. just because you assert that it is the truth, it does not make it so.
The evidence for what you believe is shaky at best.
The point I was making was that the world is full of barmpots who are willing to believe anything that shows some kind of conspiracy. They devote their lives to looking for evidence to support it, and very often they actually find some. This is not suprising because if you set out to prove something, then you will find supporters of the nudge nudge, wink wink persuasion, and you will find anomolies.
Scientists recognise this fact and they set out to disprove theories. They also use Occrams Razor where more than one possibility presents itself.
The evidence for WTC7 is simply that you and a few others do not believe it!! this is of no great shock in a country where over 50% of the population believe they have had close encounters with Aliens, JFK was shot by "Badgeman", the world is run by a secret society called the illuminati, Elvis is alive and well and a CIA agent, and, best of all, There is a department within the US government that conspires to start conspiracy theories!!
There really is no possible way that any administration would go to those lengths, and take the enormous risks involved (given that the inner circle of those who knew beforehand would be enormous) to start a war they could do by simpler methods (Single assasination, destabilising the regime to the point of civil war, shooting down a single US aircraft etc.). One president was impeached for a single interview, another for getting a blow job from his secretary!! The risks are too high.
Alan

We seem to agree on something, thats a first. ps note i didn't spell it thirst.

H6. I have to agree with once more. America administration would stick with the tools it has being using for years, "Single assassination, destabilising the regime to the point of civil war," Perhaps, I would make it multiple assassinations with blackmail and corruption". The chosen methods of a true democracy.

I give up!

Maestro is paranoid racist (anti Jewish) with no financial acumen whatsoever. Filtered by many here and elsewhere.

Correct! Also add, some of the threads he has started on moneys competitor adv are beyond belief, check them out! He is one sicko.......

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'Many years ago there lived an emperor who was quite an average fairy tale ruler, with one exception: he cared much about his clothes. One day he heard from two swindlers named Guido and Luigi Farabutto that they could make the finest suit of clothes from the most beautiful cloth. This cloth, they said, also had the special capability that it was invisible to anyone who was either stupid or not fit for his position.

Being a bit nervous about whether he himself would be able to see the cloth, the emperor first sent two of his trusted men to see it. Of course, neither would admit that they could not see the cloth and so praised it. All the townspeople had also heard of the cloth and were interested to learn how stupid their neighbors were.

The emperor then allowed himself to be dressed in the clothes for a procession through town, never admitting that he was too unfit and stupid to see what he was wearing. For he was afraid that the other people would think that he was stupid.

Of course, all the townspeople wildly praised the magnificent clothes of the emperor, afraid to admit that they could not see them, until a small child said:

"But he has nothing on!"

This was whispered from person to person until everyone in the crowd was shouting that the emperor had nothing on. The emperor heard it and felt that they were correct, but held his head high and finished the procession.'

- by Hans Christian Andersen in 1837

Blair 2006

Fred,

IMHO, Blair is
... a victim of his own vainglory.
... neither less nor more evil or saintly than the next man.
... a master spin-master deceived.
... befriended, nurtured and flattered into obedience and submission.

The King's New Clothes are in every walks of life, not just in politics.
People kept forgetting that the flatters are always ready to slander against them, if the price is right.

Only IMHO ...

so if you say 911 was an inside job on here you are classed as a sicko...strange people on here...

nice to know there are a few good Americans still...
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

Oh there are, but they are being abused by their present leadership at the moment.

The only thing which perplexes me for a relatively educated population they seem to be indoctrinated by the belief in the leadership. ie. the president and his cronies.

It seems to me frightenly like some of the German population in the 1930 - 45 period. Following the state policies.

Fred...some people have very comfortable lives and don't want to lose it by rocking the boat...trouble is there is a great big iceberg dead ahead ...will they jump off in time or go down with the shit!

You are one sick puppy maestro, that is why all your threads were deleted at adv...... Seek help........quickly!

oh were they...looks like a visit to the library is in order

False flag attack at Labour conference? GMEX/Galloway

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Noticed the press asked Galloway this questuion back in May..putting the thought into peoples minds

Galloway says murder of Blair would be 'justified'
By Oliver Duff
Published: 26 May 2006
The Respect MP George Galloway has said it would be morally justified for a suicide bomber to murder Tony Blair.

In an interview with GQ magazine, the reporter asked him: "Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber - if there were no other casualties - be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?"


Then we had this report around the same time....

Labour conference security fears after dossier debacle
by Matthew George
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Published on May 25 2006

Howard BarlowNORTH WEST ENQUIRER EXCLUSIVE

SECRET plans to protect Tony Blair from Al Qaida terrorists at this years Labour conference in Manchester have been revealed in an astonishing security blunder.


The documents mistakenly left in a city hotel list ways in which terrorist groups may try to kill the Prime Minister and other senior politicians attending the five-day conference at the G-Mex Centre.

The attack scenarios put forward include a car bomb, a mortar attack, use of rocket propelled grenades and July 7-style suicide bombers.

Measures to boost security, including the safest rooms in which to put the most important guests, are all described in detail.

And a map reveals the boundaries of so-called Tony Town, the area around which a ring of steel will be erected and only security-cleared pass holders allowed to enter.

The documents were obtained by The Enquirer after being found in a guest area at the Midland Hotel, which is next to the G-Mex Centre.

I feel sorry for Blair. How many of us get a chance to run the country? Not once, not twice but three time? He's probably trying to do now a little bit of what he should have done right from the start - strengthen the country and make it happier place for everyone to live. And not get sucked into foreign adventures and other distractions.

Too late now.

We need spin-phobia and ego-phobia politicians.

Oh, no, not one of those "found" document scenario again!
Probably a well planned and thought out plant ...

I think Blair more than any recent prime minister missed the point being elected as PM. It was not for him to consider himself as the new messiah, but to govern by cabinet discussion followed by decision to present it to parliament.

In case of emergencies this is not always possible, but there are very few true emergencies which need immediate knee jerk responses like we have seen from the present lightweight incumbent of No 10.

I am saddened to think that when the present governments overall record is analysed in the cold light of time it will be extremely disappointing with the destruction of the infrastructure and fabric of the country.

This will include the destruction of the education system, NHS, Industry, foreign policies.

The overall economy may seem reasonable, but I wonder if long term problems are being stoked up.