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Is there a good tipsheet? (TIP)     

Andy - 27 Dec 2003 19:25

All,

Adverts for tipsheets abound, all making their own various claims of success, some of which are somewhat dubious, to say the least.

In particular, I am thinking of the tipster that advertises his gains by using mid prices, which grossly distorts the true figure, if you were to utilise the bid-offer spreads that existed at the time.

I see adverts for Trendwatch, Red Hot Penny Shares, Growth Company Investor, Fleet Street Letter, to name but a few.

The question is, is there a GOOD tipshheet/tipster out there?

Is there a tipster/tipsheet that gives only occasional tips, rather than the "3 tips every week" type?

If so, please name them, and give your reasons for the nomination.
An idea of subscription price may be helpful as well, in case anyone was thinking of purchasing.

looking forward to some interesting replies!

TIA

snoball - 05 Oct 2004 11:07 - 86 of 109

This might prove useful. https://www.tipstracker.com/default.asp

bonfield - 05 Oct 2004 16:46 - 87 of 109

quality thread this. thanks for all contributors, I've learnt a great deal from it.

I subscribed to t1ps.com and wats.hot this year and have done extremely well out of ASC and MPH, though both of these are wats.hot tips rather than Winnifriths. I have been unimpressed by TW and Evil generally, they seem too keen on highly speculative mining stocks which looks like a bubble sector to me. Their timing is also pretty lousy IMO, even if some of the tips are long term winners. MWM who did wats.hot had some bizarre and highly volatile tips which he seemed to have large stakes in such as Caplay, Hansard etc. He seems to have been removed from the site...

having read the above posts and links it seems t1ps also run the tipstracker site which explains where many of their ideas originate, i.e. Momentum Investor and redskyresearch. I might go direct to the source in future.

cheers all.

Janus - 05 Oct 2004 16:54 - 88 of 109

Mmm I wont make any comments about t1ps.com or wats.hot but if you want a very good financial site then I would recomend the Michael Walters site. Apart from Mike Walters there are some very knowlegable posters.

http://www.michaelwalters.com/

Andy - 21 Nov 2004 00:16 - 89 of 109

Has anyone any knowledge of Ian Elwes' The Share Weekly?

Currently offering a promotion of 47.50 first year.

Walktall - 20 Dec 2004 15:13 - 90 of 109

Brought to top for Roro.

WT

Andy - 20 Dec 2004 19:16 - 91 of 109

roro?

Walktall - 20 Dec 2004 22:21 - 92 of 109

Andy,

Roro posted on the RTD thread with a query about a tip sheet.

WT.

Andy - 21 Dec 2004 00:03 - 93 of 109

WT,

Ok thanks, thought it was a new acronym for a moment!

angi - 21 Dec 2004 11:29 - 94 of 109

toussaint500, re Evil Knievil on t1ps.com. I cancelled my subscription (subscribed one year only) partly because this interview was so boring and repetitive. There are lists of shares that Evil Knievil either shorts or longs, same every time with the odd exception - he shorted ASOS a few weeks ago - and he said he had recently been making more money on the horses than the market, doesn't mention which ones.

The rest of their service, in my opinion, has deteriorated a lot during the year. Tom Winnifrith seemed to be more interested in his annual seminar meeting and subsequent round the country gatherings than his website, got completley bogged down with two companies he'd given bad reports on. Could say more but feel I'd better not.

goldfinger - 22 Dec 2004 11:42 - 95 of 109

Angi you mean that rubber company that thinks it makes a substitute for steel and that little company on Ofex?.

cheers GF.

Mechanicman - 27 Dec 2004 12:26 - 96 of 109

Andy
As a newbie to this game I checked out the tips tracked by David Linton on tipstracker.com. Shares mag was ranking third out of everyone in the latest survey, which isn't bad considering they're putting out two or three tips a week. I've only just started buying it... has the format changed much and what did it used to be like?

Andy - 27 Dec 2004 14:15 - 97 of 109

mechanicman,

never used Tipstracker.com, but would welcome any comment regarding it's content etc.

Shares Mag has had some decet tips recently, and I guess we've all become accustomed to the new format. One improvement, IMHO, has been more chart analysis, which I for one find interesting.

A bit of caution may be required though, as they in fact have a few main 'tips', and several other 'recommendations' per week, so hard to judge which may or not have been included in the final figures for the survey.

One trick is for the tipster to use a mid price, (which is not a price you can buy and sell at), and subsequently distorts the amount of money you would have made by using the bid / offer spread, quite considerably.

Out of interest, who occupies the first two positions in the survey you mentioned please?

Mechanicman - 27 Dec 2004 18:04 - 98 of 109

Here's the table - hope you can make sense of it. It incorporates the official tips rather than those where there's just an opinion on a share as part of a wider article... same goes for IC. The mid-price is used as the common basis, I think... this seems to be the industry standard benchmark for comparing performance.

Publication Rank Number of Tips % that Look Good % that are SELLS % Return
Unquoted Analyst 1 (5) 8 0 25 19
Mail on Sunday 2 (2) 14 21 36 10
Shares Magazine 3 (3) 38 42 10 8
Red Hot Penny Shares 4 (-) 21 38 33 7
Times 4 (7) 63 32 30 7
Members Requests 4 (-) 14 29 29 7
Investors Chronicle 4 (5) 66 14 21 7
t1ps.com 5 (4) 5 20 20 6
Daily Telegraph 6 (5) 96 24 34 5
Sunday Telegraph 7 (8) 19 26 32 4
WhatsHot 8 (1) 13 46 15 3
Sunday Express 8 (8) 4 25 75 3
UK Analyst 9 (6) 39 10 36 2
Independent 10 (8) 52 20 36 -2
Growth Company Investor 11 (9) 7 0 29 -5

Juzzle - 27 Dec 2004 20:56 - 99 of 109

extract from a piece in The Tgraf:



.... All I've done is adapt some analysis he (Mervyn King, the Governor of the Bank of England) recently employed in a speech to the British Academy, called
What Fates Impose: Facing up to Uncertainty.

His lecture is filled with cautionary tales. My favourite - largely
because it's the time of year when big `eads like myself are supposed to make
hubristic forecasts (and you should turn the page now if you're expecting one
of those) - is his scam for persuading investors that he has perfect
foresight when it comes to predicting stock market movements.

What this King of cons would do is select 6,000 names at random from the London
telephone directory. And he would then divide them into two equal groups and
send letters to one group predicting that the market will rise over the
succeeding week, while the other group would be sent letters forecasting that
it will fall.

If shares rise, he will then write again only to the 3,000 people to whom he
gave the right prediction. And again he will split them into two groups, and
despatch missives to each group, with half the letters calling an imminent fall
and the other half prognosticating a rise.

This process of binary fission is repeated for several more weeks, with letters
only being sent to recipients of accurate predictions. Anyway, after five
weeks, there would be 187.5 people who would probably be convinced that the
Governor - as King should for ever be known in the community of grifters
and hucksters - has almost magical powers to predict market movements.
And if he so chose, he would probably persuade a fair old number of them to
hand over their life savings to him...

hilldee - 28 Dec 2004 11:37 - 100 of 109

Havent read all the way back on this thread, but how many of you subscribe to MoneyWeek - which I consider a little gem. Whilst it(since its a digest) does not give tips of its own it shows a rare ability to cull the worlds news for good companies. Working on the old basis that, unless the tipster has discovered a RARE GEM the initial post disclosure price will NOT hold through two weeks, its always possible to, then, make a sensible purchase. Of course you do have to have the ability to recognize a future star rather than a market puff...but this is not all that hard. Some are genuine stars and fail for good reasons, mainly bad luck.Some are run by crooks or incompetents and some are so good that you spend the rest of your day's thanking the Gods that you noticed them AND took action. I must confess that I prefer the reflective rather than the imperative and, thus, prefer MoneyWeek to most others.

Andy - 29 Dec 2004 00:00 - 101 of 109

hildee,

Thanks, I would like to have monitored Moneyweek for a few editions, but sadly the only place I know where you can buy it "off the shelf" is WHS in Kings Cross Station!


And as I am rarely there, I haven't really has the chance to form an opinion.

My initial observation is that I already receive the daily newspaper tips, aso n ot much else to add in Moneyweek, as they list them too.

goldfinger - 29 Dec 2004 00:32 - 102 of 109

Stop mucking about lads, although just 4 weeks behind so what, use your noggings.

http://www.techinvest.co.uk/NewBuys.php

The best tip site going andIm giving it you more or less free, plus you dont get taken in in the first week or so by the greedy MMs.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 29 Dec 2004 00:35 - 103 of 109

Know what I mean? LOL. Happy new year.

cheers GF. Deal Group Media DGM for the top 2005.

Andy - 29 Dec 2004 00:46 - 104 of 109

Goldfinger,

Yes a timely reminder for techinvest, and looking at the table, they have dome ok again thois year, and our shareclub would have exited the large losses around the 20% mark, so would have gained more then the claimed 7% easily.

Chers, and a Happy New Year to you too!


ps

PDX will be 2005 champions IMHO!

scottie7 - 29 Dec 2004 10:06 - 105 of 109


Hi All
The Zurich Club
Part of the Fleetstreet Publishing stable, "private investor's network"
They look a very professional group and claim to tipped gains:
125% Wimpey
202% Glisten
98% House of Fraser
25% MEPC
87% IMPERIAL TOBACCO
46% Travis Perkins
96% powergen electricity
39% great universal Stores
123% Galagher Group
67%Matin International
They are a subscription only 120.00pa--selective customer---service
If anyone interested I could post further info
alan

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