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TMC...One of the miners that hasnt bounced yet (TMC)     

siwel2 - 17 Feb 2006 10:17

Interesting little company. Did a series of asset swops to leave them with half of the 4th largest Nickel deposit in the world.
The deposit itself is in the Philippines has been known about for 30 years but due to low prices and lack of demand in the Far East it was never exploited. With the explosion in demand from India and China the nickel price has climbed from $2 to $6.50 but oddly enough is still considered low.
The final approval stage for exploitation is just about to be approved and extraction will begin. The company already has one contract with a Japanese smelter and is in discussions with smelters in a series of countries.
Nothing clever about the operation, as the ore is of sufficiently high grade, they dig it up and ship it out. Infrastrucure is already in place for operation.
TMC is currently priced at 18m, the initial Japanese contract is worth 4m and each additional contract will hopefully be at this level or greater.
Final approval turns the company into a producer and each additional contract simply increases their size.
The management is tight with cash and has some good quality mining skills onboard.
The Philippine government is fast tracking the final approval and the company says it expects it shortly.
One to hold for approval and through the series of RNS's as more contracts are won. Company should be worth 50m in 6 months and 100m in 12-18 months.
Buy it, ignore it, just pointing this one out.

oilyrag - 20 Nov 2006 16:41 - 86 of 879

Off the top of my head a lot more than the 12 million market cap current valuation. I havnt done much research on this, but I purchased my first holding in ggg last Thursday as I am expecting some good news soon. The copper mine in Tibet is reputedly worth about 2.1 Billion before costs, that is 600,000 tonnes at 3,500 per tonne. Gold at $630 per ounce, times 1,300.000 ounces estimated in current holdings could be worth 433 Million at current prices, only downside at the moment is that they are not yet actual producers. I think the skies the limit. However that is purely my estimation and offers no guarantee of future growth, you pays your money, you takes your chance. If you were to estimate 50% production costs 2,100,000,000 plus 433,000,000 times 50% equals 1,266,500,000 divided by 82,000,000 shares equals approx 15.44 per share, this would have to be diluted by time as there are no annual production targets known. I hope you find this satisfies your need Mr Noony.

noony - 20 Nov 2006 18:27 - 87 of 879

Yes phil thank you very much!

oilyrag - 20 Nov 2006 19:30 - 88 of 879

Sorry gents, just found a major flaw in my tmc calcs, whilst looking up copper prices on London Metal Exchange, I noticed prices quoted in dollars not pounds. These would be main changes to above calcs based on this info. Substitute the following 81 billion for 43 billion, 20.5 million for 10.8 million, 50.75 billion for 26.8 billion, $35,000 for 18,515, 147,262,500 for 77,901,862, 5.34 for 2.82, 2.94 for 1.56. I do appologise for my amateurism but it was a genuine mistake not intended to mislead. Halifax asked about historical nickel prices, LME are prepared to sell this info for 20,000 a price that I am not prepared to pay, sorry.

halifax - 21 Nov 2006 16:17 - 89 of 879

Thanks anyway. Do you know what is the arrangement between TMC and the smelters in Japan? Is the ore to be sold unpurified or does TMC retain ownership and then sell the processed nickel?

oilyrag - 21 Nov 2006 17:34 - 90 of 879

I believe that the initial bulk sample is sold straight from the ground at about 20% of the london metal exchange price for nickel. To build a PAL purification plant would cost in the region of 1 Billion. It would be a few years before tmc would be in a position to afford this, unless they further dilute to raise capital or they go into partnership with another party. I believe the Phillipine government would prefer to sell the nickel after it has been treated and maybe this might be the stumbling block that has been holding up the MPSA. Whatever the outcome I shall be staying in there for the time being as there probably isnt a better bet on the market at the moment. Tomorrow is AGM may be news then.

PapalPower - 22 Nov 2006 20:13 - 91 of 879

From AFN :


"Tiggy2101 - 22 Nov'06 - 19:54 - 11498 of 11501

Here are my notes from today's AGM

1)As per the news release, all resolutions were passed. George was in attendance and the following notes were made from the slide presentation (in no particular order).

2)GB said consisderable progress had been made and processing for the Special Mines Permit had been completed while the company await the MPSA which was very good news. The SMP would allow TMC to mine without the MPSA. The SMP would be valid for one year and can be renewed on an annual basis. There was no reason to get hung up on the MPSA

3)Berong had a project life of 30 years and Celestial would come on stream this time next year in 2007. They were half way through the test and evaluation stage on Celestial.

4) The weather had caused problems due to the wet conditions in the Philippines and a second road would be built (The Dangle Rd). This would be a "all weather road" and allow seven to eight trucks to operate continually around the clock. The company will now have two roads and two options for shipping.

5) GB estimated that the 1st bulk samples would be shipped around the 10th of December. The company will be paid for the samples but at a discount. There should be no issues regarding the shipped samples. He also went on to say there would be enough cash to fund commercial production.

6) The trestle conveyor (1 klm in length)will now be situated at the end of the new road. This would allow the company to ship 25,000 tonnes a day compared to 6,000 tonnes a day using barges

7) It was interseting to note that BHP wanted a 100% of the nickel ore, however they will get 50% and the balance sent to other customers. I had the impression that demand would not be an issue in the future and small chinese smelters would take the lower quality ore.

8) There is also a major study under way to look at the different methods of processing the ore. These are as follows

HPAL
Vatleaching
Ferro Nickewl Smelting
Ammonia leaching
Hi Smelt
Other

The company will consider each process depending on the ore type.

9) Looking at nickel prices through to 2008, the price of Nickel should hold up well. There may be some reduction in price levels to around 22,000 at tonne.

10) GB did emphasise the importance of Environmental health and safety issues. TMC are in the process of implementing ISO 14001 AND ISO 018001. These standards have never been seen in the Philippines before and really set the bench mark. There appear to be a lot of cowboys operating mines in the Philippines so theses standards put TMC in a league of its own.

11) The Philippine govt do not want to see companies operating DSO's for the next fifteen years or so and at some point the ore will be proicessed on site in order to maximise value both for TMC and the govt. I thought this was a very important point to mention.

It was nice meeting George and I was very impressed with his presentation. I realise there has been further delays, however I am sure the company will deliver in the long term. I continue to hold and may add in the future


Good luck to all
Tiggy"

someuwin - 25 Nov 2006 10:46 - 92 of 879

From The Times today...

In the know

Rumour of the day
Toledo Mining added 1p to 126p on word that it was poised to secure a permit allowing it to start commercial mining of the Berong nickel project in the Philippines, the fourth-largest undeveloped nickel deposit in the world. Toledo is said to be in advanced negotiations with major customers to supply the metal, with BHP Billiton lined up to buy at least half the output.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,748-2471107.html

PapalPower - 25 Nov 2006 15:44 - 93 of 879

Thanks someuwin.

soul traders - 25 Nov 2006 16:11 - 94 of 879

Oily, thanks very much for your calculations.

One question: are not TMC shipping ore, which commands a lower price than the refined metal? I'm not sure they'll get $30k a tonne for just the rock.

oilyrag - 26 Nov 2006 07:41 - 95 of 879

S.T. see my entry 90 of 95, the rock that they are shifting at the moment contains approx 1.5% nickel. Therefore 30,000 tonnes contains approx 450 tonnes of pure nickel normally worth 450 x 22000 = 9,900,000. However the samples are being sold at 23% of the current market price which should fetch us 2,277,000.

oilyrag - 27 Nov 2006 06:54 - 96 of 879

News leaked to the Financial Times on Saturday about Special Mines Permit, I wonder if the market makers are going to mark it up before trading.

noony - 27 Nov 2006 09:05 - 97 of 879

It seems not !

PapalPower - 27 Nov 2006 12:18 - 98 of 879

Toledo Mining Corporation PLC
27 November 2006

TOLEDO MINING CORPORATION TO START COMMERCIAL MINING OPERATIONS AT BERONG NICKEL PROJECT

The directors of Toledo Mining Corporation plc (AIM:TMC) advise that the Berong Nickel Project has been issued a Special Mines Permit (SMP), and is now able to commence full scale commercial mining of laterite nickel ore from its Berong project on Palawan Island in the Philippines with immediate effect. The SMP, issued by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) headed by Secretary Angelo T. Reyes, has a term of one year (commencing on the 15th November 2006) and is renewable for a further one year.

The issuance of the SMP allows Berong Nickel Corporation (BNC) to commence its mining operations whilst it completes a feasibility report as part requirement for the company's commercial Mineral Production Sharing Agreement (MPSA) application.

The Berong Nickel Project is a Joint Venture between Toledo Mining Corporation plc, Atlas Consolidated Mining & Development Corporation, and Investika Ltd.

Current activities are focused on the extraction of a bulk metallurgical sample of approximately 30,000 dry metric tons (equivalent to approximately 45,000 wet metric tons (wmt) at a grade of approximately 1.7% nickel (includes 10% dilution). To date, approximately 20,000 wmt of ore has been mined. Progress has been slower than anticipated because of heavy rains associated with typhoon activity. This should change considerably with the approaching dry season. The bulk metallurgical sample will be shipped to Hainan Yulai Steel Co. Ltd., a Chinese stainless steel producer.

Commercial mining operations will commence immediately. For the first year of the SMP, an export target of approximately 1 million wet metric tons of ore has been set, weather permitting. The grade of this ore will average greater than 1.85% nickel. Some shipments with grades above 2% nickel can be expected. The mine is expected to be operating at an annual rate of approximately 1.5 million wmt per year by the start of 2008.

Customer demand for the laterite ore is very strong. Negotiations are well advanced for the long term (4+ years) supply of up to 50% of the mine output to the BHP Billiton /QNI (Queensland Nickel) plant at Townsville in Australia. Similarly, negotiations continue with numerous Chinese and Japanese customers for shorter term supply of up to 2 years. Demand far exceeds supply.

Mr George Bujtor, CEO of Toledo Mining Corporation commented, 'The Berong Nickel Project has been developed into a commercial mining operation in under one year from the time we commenced initial test pitting and sampling. Such rapid progress is achievable in the Philippines under the current mining laws, and we can thank the DENR for its diligence and full support'.

George Bujtor, CEO of Toledo Mining, is a member of the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy and is the qualified person that has reviewed and approved the technical information contained in this announcement

halifax - 27 Nov 2006 13:38 - 99 of 879

With production increasing to 1,500.000wmt in early 2008 the sale proceeds assuming nickel prices remain strong must make TMC's current market capitalisation of 37million look ridiculously low!

oilyrag - 28 Nov 2006 08:31 - 100 of 879

Down 3.5p Ha Ha you don't scare me you silly market maker. I'm going to buy more.

noony - 28 Nov 2006 09:04 - 101 of 879

It's not just TMC nearly everything is down

PARKIN - 28 Nov 2006 20:34 - 102 of 879

BLESS AMERICA !

Big Al - 29 Nov 2006 02:41 - 103 of 879

The title of this thread intrigues me.

Nothing has a right to "bounce". ;-))

oilyrag - 01 Dec 2006 21:02 - 104 of 879

All gone a bit flat since last announcement.

someuwin - 02 Dec 2006 19:44 - 105 of 879

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