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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 07 Feb 2018 08:41 - 8616 of 12628

Hils , clearly states in its articles that the EIB share holders shall and can only be the member states of the EU.

Now presumably they had no problem of adjusting the share capital when new members joined and were added as shareholders so they can damn well count up the assets now and give us our 16% back when we leave.

hilary - 07 Feb 2018 08:53 - 8617 of 12628

Or maybe they could offer to buy the UK's stake for a couple of cents on the euro, Dilbert. Isn't that what those banker types do when they know they've got their prey in a corner?

It's certainly what I'd do.

:o)

Dil - 07 Feb 2018 09:16 - 8618 of 12628

I think it's the other way round Hils. According to their own rules they have to give us our money back and my guess is they can't afford to without going cap in hand to member states to raise more capital.

Just saw a representative of the EIB being quizzed in the EU Parliament by an MEP about what their plans were for when we leave and the guy shrugged his shoulders and said err umm we haven't made any.

Better make some soon sunshine cos we want our money back.

jimmy b - 07 Feb 2018 10:20 - 8619 of 12628

Fred1new - 07 Feb 2018 08:34 - 8615 of 8618

"Victorian Spirit that made Britain what it was"

"What was it?
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Typical Fred , what makes you hate Britain so much

ExecLine - 08 Feb 2018 00:00 - 8620 of 12628

ExecLine - 08 Feb 2018 00:04 - 8621 of 12628

ExecLine - 08 Feb 2018 00:04 - 8622 of 12628

Or, as Fred might say:

"Stick it to the Tories with a hand made voodoo pincushion"

VICTIM - 08 Feb 2018 14:01 - 8623 of 12628

George Sorass , is backing a campaign to overturn Brexit , the Telegraph can disclose , three senior figures linked to the remain campaign , intend to seek second referendum , document out by end of month . I wish him nothing but pain .

hilary - 08 Feb 2018 18:57 - 8624 of 12628

Why would you wish ill of him, Vicky? That's not very nice.

Surely he's just talking his book? Or are you seriously worried that Brexit might never happen?

And by the way, it's Soros.

jimmy b - 08 Feb 2018 22:07 - 8625 of 12628

Soros is a pig . Like Branson just out for himself.

Fred1new - 09 Feb 2018 08:23 - 8626 of 12628

Dil - 09 Feb 2018 09:52 - 8627 of 12628

Wtf has Brexit got to do with Soros ?

He's on a loser with this.

VICTIM - 09 Feb 2018 11:17 - 8628 of 12628

SORASS .

VICTIM - 09 Feb 2018 11:27 - 8629 of 12628

Talking his book , what an utterly stupid thing to say , so just to satisfy some whim , it's alright to for him to try to influence a Nations destination just so he can gain in whatever way he wants , pathetic . Same as the other lot , just selfish gain .

VICTIM - 09 Feb 2018 11:32 - 8630 of 12628

So by calling me Vicky , you think your belittling me somewhat , well don't worry your little self , another Ivory Tower dweller i see .

hilary - 09 Feb 2018 14:35 - 8631 of 12628

Vicky,

I did say the other week that, now I'd figured which of your buttons to press, I'd enjoy pressing them.

Dilbert,

Soros has been persuading and influencing governments for a long time, and I expect him to launch a two-pronged attack on Brexit. Firstly, by launching a social media marketing campaign targeting the snowflakes and suggesting they mobilise with rallies and demonstrations, and, secondly, by political lobbying of pro-EU MPs, pressing them to force a vote on a second referendum in the Commons on the back of those demonstrations.

Like I said though, he's also well known for talking his book, and he often works hand in glove with Goldmans who are always happy to put money ahead of morals. They've possibly got a large position in the markets which will benefit from Brexit turmoil, and it'll be worth their while to spend some money creating that turmoil.

VICTIM - 09 Feb 2018 15:19 - 8632 of 12628

Oh gawd please .

iturama - 09 Feb 2018 17:16 - 8633 of 12628

Dil - 09 Feb 2018 19:02 - 8634 of 12628

Hils , mobilise the snowflakes won't happen. They'd have to get off their arses for that and we all know most of them couldn't find their way to the end of their own street.

Dil - 09 Feb 2018 19:09 - 8635 of 12628

As for barmy Barnier threatening no translation period ... how about you get no more money ? Doesn't he realise Brexit is going to effect the EU just as much as us. Also he is the first to state that if we don't stay in the custom Union then there will have to be border checks in Ireland. Really looks like he wants us to stay in with his threats and blackmail.

Negotiations could be over by end of March with a bit of luck. Fed up with the rubbish he keeps spouting.
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