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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

hilary - 13 Feb 2018 16:48 - 8674 of 12628

Why would you need to go to A&E to change a dressing? Isn't that a waste of front-line resources in itself? I thought they did that kind of thing in outpatients and clinics?

And surely Romanians have freedom of EU movement nowadays, so why would they be illegal?

Now if the NHS only treated people with NI cards, that would be a solution.... And you wouldn't need to leave the EU for that to happen. :o)

hilary - 13 Feb 2018 16:52 - 8675 of 12628

Every Picture Tells a Story, Fred.

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2018 16:54 - 8676 of 12628

Do you mean the ID cards should have been introduced?

Would have prevented a lot of false financial claims.

Mind quite a lot on this or similar threads were up in arms to prevent their introduction.

Tut Tut.

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But it is always the others who abuse the NHS and A+Es, not me.

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VICTIM - 13 Feb 2018 16:58 - 8677 of 12628

Hitlary are you any relation to Ian Paisley by any chance , just similar sort of characteristics really . Talking of school , I suspect you were a Headmistress at one stage giving out orders . Do as i say not as i do sort of thing , sit straight child , took it home with you too , and everywhere else .

VICTIM - 13 Feb 2018 17:06 - 8678 of 12628

WOW what a pair Hitlary and Freda , one never votes the other can't vote but here they are pulling UK to pieces , misery personified , suit each other perfectly .

hilary - 13 Feb 2018 17:16 - 8679 of 12628

I can't speak for Fred, because it's every bit a person's democratic right not to vote as it is to vote, but expats get a vote in referenda for 15 years after leaving the UK, Vicky. My husband and I asked our children to vote for us by proxy.

We've also kept our flat in Kensington because it has been a good investment, so we could probably vote there if we wanted in other elections, although I'm not entirely sure whether we're on the electoral register as that's never been our principle residence.

MaxK - 13 Feb 2018 18:07 - 8680 of 12628

The Guardian view on George Soros: the best of the 1%

Mon 12 Feb 2018 18.18 GMT


Many billionaires try to influence the politics of countries that aren’t their own. Most do so by stealth but George Soros is open – and usually right



George Soros is hardly the first billionaire to spend some of his money trying to influence the policies of countries where he does not live or have a vote: the papers that have led the charge against his funding of anti-Brexit organisations are all owned by such men even if none is as rich as he is. And his decision to spend money campaigning for the remain cause should be welcomed. The public gift of another £100,000 to Best for Britain, a campaign group fighting to stay in the EU, could not be a better gesture of defiance at his enemies after he had been accused of masterminding a private campaign for the same end.


Mr Soros has for years been the target of organised hate campaigns, often coloured with antisemitism, which seem to go far beyond the hostility aimed at other international power figures. Only Rupert Murdoch enjoys a similar reputation as a sinister manipulator of democratic governments, and he is the target of much less orchestrated loathing.

In the US, such men are astonishingly powerful: the examples of Sheldon Adelson or the Koch brothers show that rich men there invest large sums in influence over policy. They operate on the right, and Mr Soros is broadly on the left, although it’s an odd sidelight on the state of politics that a man who made his money in currency speculation should be regarded as a saviour of progressive causes.



More paid for drivel here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/12/the-guardian-view-on-george-soros-the-best-of-the-1

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2018 18:21 - 8681 of 12628

Max.

You have at least one redeeming feature.

You seem to read and appreciate a decent newspaper.

Haystack - 14 Feb 2018 00:35 - 8682 of 12628

The need for hospital to change dressing was due to the damage and the water retained in her legs normally causing healing problems. At 83 she is in danger of leg ulcers as she is diabetic. This is a common cause of limb amputation. The dressing of the wound is fairly complex involving a compression bandage of a specific tension.

,...... ..

Conservative MPs may vote against the government or more likely abstain but are very unlikely to bring down May's government as their own jobs would be at risk. They can solve their problems by just replacing her.

.........

The comment about illegals going to A&E was not related to the Romanians

Fred1new - 14 Feb 2018 08:30 - 8683 of 12628

A party without its nanny?

Come, come.

Fred1new - 14 Feb 2018 10:45 - 8684 of 12628



We want everything for nothing!!

Dog eat dog.

Fred1new - 14 Feb 2018 11:48 - 8685 of 12628

The blond bombshell as vacuous as usual.

hilary - 14 Feb 2018 19:29 - 8686 of 12628

And who's the editor of the London Evening Standard? Hmmm.

MaxK - 14 Feb 2018 20:49 - 8687 of 12628

Well, it all looks too difficult, shall we call it off?

MaxK - 14 Feb 2018 20:57 - 8688 of 12628

Walk away time comes closer..


EU wants power to raid financial firms in Britain after Brexit



By James Crisp, Brussels correspondent
14 February 2018 • 5:51pm




The European Union will demand the right to raid financial services firms in Britain after Brexit and hand its regulators sweeping new powers, as Brussels moves to shackle the City of London with red tape after the UK leaves the bloc.

The three regulators, the European Supervisory Authorities (ESAs), will be given extra resources, levied in large part from British-headquartered firms, under the plans to closely police enforcement and regulation of the City.

Brussels will bestow the new powers on the ESAs during the Brexit transition period, when Britain will be stripped of EU voting rights and be powerless to stop the changes.

After transition, the ESAs will report to the European Commission,...



More if you sign up: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/14/eu-wants-power-raid-financial-firms-britain-brexit/

Fred1new - 14 Feb 2018 22:36 - 8689 of 12628

That is what some in the "City" were trying to escape from.

hilary - 15 Feb 2018 07:57 - 8690 of 12628

Max,

You really think Boris even wants Brexit? I don't.

He stage managed his public announcement of which camp he was going to support for maximum personal political gain, not out of undying love for his country. Every other MP had made their opinions known without a fanfare a long time before Boris decided to call a press conference.

Doc Proc said a couple of months ago that his dad was a useless tosser (or words to that effect). Well like father, like son!

MaxK - 15 Feb 2018 08:16 - 8691 of 12628

hilly.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that I am a Boris supporter, other than that he appears to be a brexit enthusiast.

I don't actually trust any of them.

Fred1new - 15 Feb 2018 08:49 - 8692 of 12628

Fred1new - 15 Feb 2018 08:49 - 8693 of 12628

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