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RAMPERS     

ajren - 15 Jun 2004 09:39

MOTIVES ???
rgds aj

ajren - 17 Jun 2004 16:22 - 87 of 99

Interesting
rgds aj

ajren - 17 Jun 2004 16:49 - 88 of 99

My post on CYH

1.95 now
Nov 9 2003 ckmtang :-
........... hopefully it really will rise to 10p before Christmas and 30p - 50p
in 6 months.
Not ramping ?
rgds aj

hopping - 17 Jun 2004 17:11 - 89 of 99

I think you'll find that this board has the same amount of Rampers as any other.
The same Rampers appear on so many other boards under different names thats all.
They are not capable of trading without the help of others who are so gullible. .
Hopping.

stockpick - 17 Jun 2004 19:51 - 90 of 99

There are only two types or reasons to invest, Fundamental or Technical. Any idiot that takes a position because of hear say deserves what they get. I have also seen some people imply that suehelen ramps, well the shares do go up ( from the ones I have seen ) so perhaps that is more reliable than a tip, get in early and get out quick.
PS suehelen I like your posts and have no view on the point of ramping.

Fred1new - 18 Jun 2004 00:35 - 91 of 99

Stockpicker are you suggesting that everything printed as fundamentals or seen as chart reflections are correct and honest reflections of a the true state of a company's position.

If only it was so!!

ajren - 18 Jun 2004 09:10 - 92 of 99

CYH = 150P before Christmas
rgds aj

stockpick - 18 Jun 2004 09:21 - 93 of 99

Fred1new - You could start a whole new thread on this. Bit early for this so I will try to clarify what I meant, Nothing in life is a given but the market as we know is driven by greed or fear, which for the most is acted on by news,jumping on the band wagon or bailing out. Long and short term invest in different ways so this has an effect on the way each of us buy or sell. A lot of the companies on the board are smaller with people investing on longer term. As we know these stocks and can be volatile on any news flow which can be minimal and some may not move for months. I have now closed all but two of my long term investments and generally trade shorter term 1-4 by spreads, so for me there has to be momentum which I think will drive the price long or short. Market news can do this, but as most of the news is already known by the big boys and for the most already acted on in the opening price (assume that the majority are working not day trading)that is of little value, most of the gain will already have been taken and you are left with little margin or get caught on the reversal. Fundamentals (if thats your bag) do allow a view on the company for the statement due which may drive the price, I obviously use technical as for me that is the picture of what the investors feel. I dont see any true connection between the charts or the companies true position, just the way the price and trend is going. To me it makes no difference what they do or make, just what the sentement of the market or market sector is. Yes I get caught as we all do, thats the fun.

rg. SP

ajren - 18 Jun 2004 09:32 - 94 of 99

100 agree with :-

Market news... but most of the news is already known by the big boys.

I said this 6 months ago but - as nearly always happens - I suffered terrible
personal abuse.
rgds aj

Fred1new - 18 Jun 2004 23:33 - 95 of 99

I agree with the majority of what you write. It is difficult to swim aqgainst the tide. But having always been a coward I don't often go out of my depth if I can help it.

I am getting a little more sympathetic to the use of charts and think, or hope, using them may improve on my returns. (Long or short term) But I think if I can combine them with fundamentals I may be led astray a little less often. I can see the horses galloping but it is the bloody fences which frighten me. Especially in the dark.
Have Fun.

daves dazzlers - 19 Jun 2004 00:28 - 96 of 99

rampers ,,i thought that`s what skateboarders where called!!!!well you learn something new every day.

bosley - 19 Jun 2004 12:44 - 97 of 99

fredi new, are you eric cantona in disguise?
"I can see the horses galloping but it is the bloody fences which frighten me. Especially in the dark. "
very similar to the seagulls quote of erics a few years ago . very deep , very mysterious.

Kivver - 19 Jun 2004 14:25 - 98 of 99

Ajren, do you still standby your prediction cybit (cyh) will be 30-50p in within 6 months? You then start a thread about ramping. Your a wind up mercahnt arn't you??

LEEWINK - 19 Jun 2004 17:08 - 99 of 99

ok, let me re-write this ref - AFD.

AFD did have an old broker note for around 91p share price give or take a few p, this share hit 88p and resettled, now it awaits another broker notification and as quoted by the writers "substantially higher than previous".

AFD has since the last broker issue JV'd with Debeers, and this alone has brought forward minetimes for this area alone by 4 years thus speeding operations and incomes extensively, AFD has other areas that have been geo - phys'd / possibly mined too.

Estimates for this new note have been varied, from a conservative 1.20 - 1.40 to 3.00 plus, as Debeers are going all out to keep up with there quoted amounts needed and to which they need all diamonds fast, which is why they JV'd with AFD to get them.

I quoted AFD and Debeers to joint venture a while before it come to light and everyone laughed at me on a bb, why would Debeers be in the slightest interested in AFD ?? they asked, because Debeers are way under quota's now, sure enough ......

Now when I posted above about AFD it did go up as per stated through buying power as the share price hit its low this year, I dont class myself as a ramper, I quoted DDD at 9p sold out myself a little later and it went through the roof.

The broker note is due around the end of this month, and again I believe backed with strong news this will swiftly move again.

IMHO if the note is anywhere near whats expected, and is released on time I feel shareprice will quickly rise to suggested price, i've held through the rise the other day and will hold through any more news and broker note onwards.

Lets see what happens from here to around the end of the month.

Just my observation and opinion, dyoh+r

EDIT :- look at a year chart, and see the rise, at some stages at the start 4 folding without stop, this shows how it can gain, again, if this broker note comes good, and news backs it, you'll probably see similar style rises, as although AFD have seen a 50% drop since the initial rise, the previous broker note still stands, still at 90 odd pence.

Although unseen, the interest for news and note now must be growing - as all those who were fortunate enough to be in for the first rise and take profit, are edging there seats now for the second. I wasn't in for the first rise, but there now.
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