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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

chuckles - 10 Aug 2012 22:30 - 8709 of 21973

Why keep shorting something that wants to go up?
If it's going down, short it, if it's going up, go long.
Ideas don't work with Indices, going with the trend mostly works.

HARRYCAT - 10 Aug 2012 22:48 - 8710 of 21973

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Toya - 11 Aug 2012 06:49 - 8711 of 21973

Yeah thanks Chuckles. I shall put all ideas aside from now on. Had thought that if the Ftse reached 5850 it would drop back - and it did for a while, so am ok. But I'm amazed at the late-night charge.

HARRYCAT - 11 Aug 2012 10:14 - 8712 of 21973

Just bizarre how what are obviously very negative figures are treated as a positive:
"US equities shrugged off worries about slowing economic growth in China to keep the bull run going.

In July the world’s second largest economy saw exports rise just 1% compared to a consensus estimate of a rise of 8%. Imports, meanwhile, grew less than expected. The year-on-year rise was 4.7% versus market expectations of a 7.2% rise. The trade surplus narrowed from $31.7bn in June to $25.1bn in July.

Although macroeconomic news initially had investors drawing in their horns, the afternoon session saw shares take off, pushing the S&P 500 index to a five week high. Once again, the reason for the turnaround was the ability of stock market bulls to turn any negative into a positive, to wit bad news means more fiscal stimulus from global banks is on the way." (Digitallook)

skinny - 11 Aug 2012 10:29 - 8713 of 21973

The Only Way is Up

Toya - 12 Aug 2012 10:06 - 8714 of 21973

Lol Skinny! Agree with Harrycat though: it does seem bizarre

skinny - 12 Aug 2012 10:28 - 8715 of 21973

Yes - it is bizarre, but the market seems to want to go up - so why fight it - something I've been very guilty of in the past.

I must admit though that I have been selling off a few frontliners this past week - CNA, & HSBA, with a view to buy them back when/if there is a pull back.

Toya - 13 Aug 2012 15:34 - 8716 of 21973

Interestingly, the DOW is today responding to weak data from Japan - by actually going DOWN, not up!

ahoj - 13 Aug 2012 16:23 - 8717 of 21973

The point is that no new company is coming to the market, so the current companies are forcing the workers to work well above their contract - higher productivity and access to cheap money.

Middle class people are in trouble, but not the companies as much.

cynic - 13 Aug 2012 18:55 - 8718 of 21973

but assuredly neither GOOG nor AAPL which continue to forge ahead :-))

ahoj - 13 Aug 2012 19:07 - 8719 of 21973

Half a percent rise a day is not bad, is it?
I think both will continue forging ahead, nothing can stop them. They have the world, 7bln people.Even if 1bln in trouble, other 6bln have not got many options to choose from.

cynic - 13 Aug 2012 20:01 - 8720 of 21973

having been ramping (lol) these for ages, but none seem to listen ...... in fact, i trade them both quite regularly as they can be pretty volatile

skinny - 14 Aug 2012 06:33 - 8721 of 21973

French Prelim GDP q/q 0.0% consensus -0.1% previous 0.0%

skinny - 14 Aug 2012 07:06 - 8722 of 21973

German Prelim GDP q/q 0.3% consensus 0.2% previous 0.5%

skinny - 14 Aug 2012 09:30 - 8723 of 21973

GB CPI y/y 2.6% consensus 2.3% previous 2.4%

skinny - 14 Aug 2012 10:00 - 8724 of 21973

German ZEW Economic Sentiment -25.5 consensus -19.4 previous -19.6

skinny - 14 Aug 2012 13:31 - 8725 of 21973

USD Core Retail Sales m/m 0.8% consensus 0.4% previous -0.4%

USD PPI m/m 0.3% consensus 0.3% previous 0.1%

USD Retail Sales m/m 0.8% consensus 0.3% previous -0.5%

chuckles - 14 Aug 2012 20:19 - 8726 of 21973

Got a small short running on the Dow from about 10 mins ago. Good job as it happen because I'd mistakenly gone long earlier. Spotted my mistake though and escaped with a £2.50 loss. Not sure this trade will come good either, but it's looking more short than long at the mo.

chuckles - 14 Aug 2012 20:34 - 8727 of 21973

Dow short closed for 20 points, may well drop more before the close but hit the target so that's that for the night, wont be tempted back in

skinny - 15 Aug 2012 09:30 - 8728 of 21973

GBP Claimant Count Change -5.9k consensus 6.2K previous 6.1K

GBP Unemployment Rate 8% consensus 8.1% previous 8.1%
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