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Always thought that a hurdle was just a hurdle. OK, there are grand national hurdles but they're a different species altogether!

Just shows how much I know about horse racing!

Bak

most racecourses have 2 separate courses - a hurdles course and a chase course.

The chase course has big fences, ditches and water jumps, like the national though not as big. The hurdles course has thin hurdles which effectively fall down when hit and at worst cause a loss of balance. also they are only about 2.5 ft high compared to the chase fences which can be 6 ft high and also several feet wide

I've had a small problem with my basic betangel this afternoon. The green 'In-play' banner has been in the middle of the screen instead of at the top, and it has obscured the Back odds of the 4th horse down.

Is this for Scrip please?

drop an email to scrip at optic

Steve...Thanks for the info on hurdles. Much appreciated.

no probs Bak

i think there is a need for us to have a day at Haydock for a full education :-) im sure john would be up for it

When it's nice and warm

Am green on the African cup :-)

You should send an email to support schiff, I don't have the bandwidth to deal directly with problems.

BTW All, I am going to the Reading vs Soton match this evening after I was kindly offered a ticket. I'll wave so you can see me on the TV!

5.40 at nad al sheeba unreal

fav was trading at 2.6 to 2.7 then someone took the book out down to 2.2 to 2.3 on several occasions beofre it bounced back each time - managed to catch the last 2 spike downs :-)

whoever it was did their dough lol - and plenty of it

Is there liquidity in those races Steve?

The bigger races yes, but most of it comes to the market in the last 3 or 4 minutes so its a bit hectic, but in the last race over 150k was matched on the fav in the last 5 mins.

the swings tend to be quite violent but can therefore be very profitable

awful game the ANC final - nailed on to go to penalties?

Fundy .... lost my shirt on Wales last Saturday bought have clawed back two thirds over the week.

That'll teach me to gamble , hate betting and not being able to trade in play.

Dil

not surprised with the way the game went - i got out on the wales +26.5 at 1.08 which i dare say you would have done if trading - just a shame i didnt reverse it. Will try and have a look at the handicaps later for this weekend

Got nearly all my shirt back now Fundy. Traded two football matches today and had two good results.

Out watching Ebbooo tomorrow so won't be trading the rugby and I'm not really into trading Wales games .

Have a good weekend all , pub calls.

Morning All

Just been looking at the Ind v Pak cricket. Pak scored 265 after their innings. Ind looking very comfortable on 96 without loss after only 14 overs.

Not involved yet as prices too skinny and there's been some big bots jumping in and out of the order book

India are now 128/2 having lost Tendulkar and Sehwag within a few overs of each other.

There's not the usual amounts of liquidity in the game as it's not televised but the fall of wickets have cleared the big bots away for now.

India game all over Bak

the big money is more likely to be asian bookmakers than bots i think you'll find

it is on tv but only ARY (812 on sky) which was available at 40 for the test and one day series