HUSTLER
- 17 Nov 2004 20:02
NETeller - NLR - 3.15
Thought i would start a new thread following on from
hawick - new issue looks very special - not to steal the thunder from
hawick but just to highlight the company name to those not already in to this
potential blockbuster.
Those of us who are following NETeller know the background and have been
active with postings,for newcomers i strongly sugest viewing the
( new issue looks very special posting )the content will speak for itself.
Brief overview of NETeller
The company handles online cash transactions across the globe
on 21st oct gained fsa approval to operate as a regulated e-money issuer
and will passport the regulated status to all 25 EU member states
it has over 1 million clients rising by 2000 number each day
1500 online merchants and processed over $1.5 billion in 2003
pre tax profit is estimated to be 29 million to dec 04 rising to
40 million next year
per currently 20 to dec 04 falling to 11.5 which is low for sector
brokers have been raising forcasts on a regular basis
share price has risen over 50% since launch earlier this year
new markets emerging constantly,asia has the potential for supergrowth
online casinos are creating enormous profits
given all this - cash generative - huge market - fsa approval
infastructure in place to handle growth, profits accrue to bottom line
the market force is behind it with good relative strength
all put together it is hard to argue against this has the potential
to be a blockbuster over the year ahead
regards HUSTLER
jimmy b
- 19 Apr 2005 13:10
- 880 of 1341
Im not selling mine ,and if stockdogs prediction comes good ill be buying more.
Are you sure Evil's shorting moneyplus ??
moneyplus
- 19 Apr 2005 14:41
- 881 of 1341
just a mention briefly on his evilcast saying he still feels nlr hasn't any asset backing and will suffer when competition comes along. as that has not yet happened and they are very well established the no. of users are their assets growng all the time IMO.
jimmy b
- 19 Apr 2005 15:30
- 882 of 1341
Exactly there is no competition at present..JB..
pension271
- 21 Apr 2005 10:22
- 883 of 1341
Independent 21.4.05
NETeller jumped 19p higher to 558.5p as Evolution Securities slapped an "add" rating on the e-money group. The broker believes the stock is worth at least 725p a share and tips the company to benefit from the transfer of its operations to the Isle of Man. This move should reduce its tax rate from 33 per cent to 10 per cent. Evolution told its clients that trading at NETeller is strong and suggested that upgrades to profit forecasts are likely in the coming months.
jimmy b
- 21 Apr 2005 10:46
- 884 of 1341
Good pension271 we need some good news..JB..
pension271
- 21 Apr 2005 11:16
- 885 of 1341
Gambling sector - cover story in SHARES MAG today
this is what it says re NLR
Credit card companies are scared of US laws and the number of bad debts so they won't provide a service. This means that NLR is in a good position to spread worldwide. It is opening up in China, with Japan, S.Korea and Singapore to come this year.
A deal with a big international bank(may be RBS) is expected in around six months. The bank wants access to NLR's 1.5 million customers to sell them banking services.
Several anylysts have a target of 10 for the shares within a year, as the pros.PE looks undemanding at 12 for 2006.
getting better and better !!!
brain2brain
- 21 Apr 2005 18:32
- 886 of 1341
Nice to see this one on the move again.
B2B
pension271
- 25 Apr 2005 11:39
- 887 of 1341
Any one any good news - cant bear to see them down - despite all the good news last week - down 30p this am.
p/271
goldfinger
- 25 Apr 2005 12:12
- 888 of 1341
From Killik morning notes.......................
Neteller Management meeting
The AIM index has fallen 9.4% since its high on 7th March, and in the process has thrown up a number of opportunities. Online payments processor Neteller, for example, is currently trading at 560p, a level which we believe is an excellent entry point for this fast growing business. A management meeting on Friday confirms that newsflow for this year should include details of one or more internationally branded JV banking partners. We believe North American and European earnings growth underpins the current valuation of 15x prospective earnings, and in addition the company is at an early stage in developing its Asian business. Please see our 29th March 05 Morning Note for more information.
cheers GF.
pension271
- 25 Apr 2005 12:21
- 889 of 1341
Thanks GF - will keep faith and soldier on. p/271
jimmy b
- 25 Apr 2005 13:24
- 890 of 1341
So am i pension,, surely they have to come back,,it just may take time..JB..
Madison
- 25 Apr 2005 13:28
- 891 of 1341
Very difficult to know WHEN this will turn north again, but it seems more than likely that it WILL do so.
Cheers, Madison
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2005 00:27
- 892 of 1341
Evolution change add stance to BUY.
Recent weakness provides buying opportunity
The fall in share price is not a reflection of trading weakness but a likely
reappraisal of valuation. We think the price is now looking attractive again
given the number and variety of upside opportunities. We move to BUY.
Neteller (NLR.L)
Price/Target: 540p/725p
BUY (from ADD)
NLR has fallen 15% since we initiated coverage on April 8 with an ADD (see note,
A narrow window of opportunity). This compares to a fall of 1% suffered by the
basket of companies that are exposed the US online gaming sector. There does
not appear to be any fundamental reason for the collapse as
1/ trading
momentum remains strong (the outlook statement accompanying the FY04 results
triggered upgrades as Q105 sign ups increased by a better-than-expected 69%
YoY) and 2/ the threat of the US enacting legislation permitting online gambling
looks more unlikely than ever (US suppliers of eWallet solutions are precluded
from competing in NLRs space owing to the US prohibitionist stance). With
regard to the latter, the WTO ruled on April 7th that US prohibitionist tendencies
did not represent a restraint of trade (see note on Sportingbet, Mixed news from
the WTO on April 8th). Furthermore, the Senate voted against North Dakotas
attempts to regulate online Poker.
NLR poses valuation challenges given the trade offs in assessing excellent near
term prospects (we forecast 107% EPS growth in FY05 and 44% in FY06) and
medium/long- term uncertainties surrounding US legislation.
Our DCF derived fair
value of 725p attempts to factor in this uncertainty by collapsing EBITDA margins
from 56% to 36% by 2008 which leads to flat FCF between 2006 and 2008.
However, we understand certain investors concerns regarding DCFs.
An alternative view is to consider the following question; At what rating would
NLR look cheap? We think a fair answer is a PEG of 0.25, which equates to a
FY06 PE of 11x rating and a trigger price of 500p. The current rating is 12x, not
quite bargain basement, but not far off either.
We move to BUY as we believe it is possible that the trigger price could rise
owing to several sources of upgrades; 1/ we think that the core US facing gaming
orientated business could outperform our numbers (again), 2/ the management
are looking to tie up a JV with a bank which would cross sell products to NLRs
1.5m (and growing) user base, 3/ geographic diversification (Asia and Europe), 4/
product diversification (for example, it could enter the P2P money transfer
business that is inhabited by the likes of Western Union (NLR charges 2% vs
Western Unions 11%) and 5/ NLR is well placed to make enhancing acquisitions to acieve some or all of the above.
The sources of upside noted above are all core to NLRs strategy and we have
been encouraged so far by the management teams delivery of the targets it has
set itself since IPO. We think that some of these upside opportunities could
materialise in the next 3-4 months, hence our move to BUY.
cheers GF.
HUSTLER
- 26 Apr 2005 00:50
- 893 of 1341
A steal at this price GF.
Fortune favoures the brave they say - must be said it has dropped
below my stop loss but on this occasion i am not selling
convinced it's the right thing to do. Hanging myself on principal
but hang i will, it's not broken so Don't mend it.
regards HUSTLER
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2005 01:00
- 894 of 1341
Well it needs a kick up the ass Hustler lets hope this does the trick.
cheers GF.
HUSTLER
- 26 Apr 2005 01:18
- 895 of 1341
dow and nas comp up at close nearly 1%
hope for a good start later today we need it
this fin year at week 3 sucks so far
battered everywhere
got to get going or got to get tough
but good vibes for the morning.
regards HUSTLER
stockdog
- 26 Apr 2005 02:34
- 896 of 1341
In spite of positive notes all round and evident enthusiasm to hold for long-term propsects, I suspect current retracement will eventually reach the support level provided by the August up-trend line (cutting today's date at 450) somewhere between below 500p before moving up again into a more settled trading range between 550 and 650 until enough good news sends it back up over 700 again. Of course good news issued soon (Eastern Bank JV?) could accelerate this re-growth, avoiding the full retracement.
This is remaarkably close to my buy limit of 475 I mentioned sometime the previous side of its recent head and shoulders.
Also the chart confirms to my current theory that when a steep initial rise with no historical support/resistance structure falls back through the 25dma (in this case at 650, or even the 13dma if you want to play it really tight at nearer 690), it's a pretty good signal to take probably full profits and regroup to buy back in lower. This would have worked for BFC, DOO, FOGL, ASC and will probably work for SEO.
I'm starting to consider where I will gather fresh funds from, in case I am called upon to honour my pledge to buy in at <= 475!
SD
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2005 09:36
- 897 of 1341
Evolution change add stance to BUY.
Recent weakness provides buying opportunity
The fall in share price is not a reflection of trading weakness but a likely
reappraisal of valuation. We think the price is now looking attractive again
given the number and variety of upside opportunities. We move to BUY.
Neteller (NLR.L)
Price/Target: 540p/725p
BUY (from ADD)
NLR has fallen 15% since we initiated coverage on April 8 with an ADD (see note,
A narrow window of opportunity). This compares to a fall of 1% suffered by the
basket of companies that are exposed the US online gaming sector. There does
not appear to be any fundamental reason for the collapse as
1/ trading
momentum remains strong (the outlook statement accompanying the FY04 results
triggered upgrades as Q105 sign ups increased by a better-than-expected 69%
YoY) and 2/ the threat of the US enacting legislation permitting online gambling
looks more unlikely than ever (US suppliers of eWallet solutions are precluded
from competing in NLRs space owing to the US prohibitionist stance). With
regard to the latter, the WTO ruled on April 7th that US prohibitionist tendencies
did not represent a restraint of trade (see note on Sportingbet, Mixed news from
the WTO on April 8th). Furthermore, the Senate voted against North Dakotas
attempts to regulate online Poker.
NLR poses valuation challenges given the trade offs in assessing excellent near
term prospects (we forecast 107% EPS growth in FY05 and 44% in FY06) and
medium/long- term uncertainties surrounding US legislation.
Our DCF derived fair
value of 725p attempts to factor in this uncertainty by collapsing EBITDA margins
from 56% to 36% by 2008 which leads to flat FCF between 2006 and 2008.
However, we understand certain investors concerns regarding DCFs.
An alternative view is to consider the following question; At what rating would
NLR look cheap? We think a fair answer is a PEG of 0.25, which equates to a
FY06 PE of 11x rating and a trigger price of 500p. The current rating is 12x, not
quite bargain basement, but not far off either.
We move to BUY as we believe it is possible that the trigger price could rise
owing to several sources of upgrades; 1/ we think that the core US facing gaming
orientated business could outperform our numbers (again), 2/ the management
are looking to tie up a JV with a bank which would cross sell products to NLRs
1.5m (and growing) user base, 3/ geographic diversification (Asia and Europe), 4/
product diversification (for example, it could enter the P2P money transfer
business that is inhabited by the likes of Western Union (NLR charges 2% vs
Western Unions 11%) and 5/ NLR is well placed to make enhancing acquisitions to acieve some or all of the above.
The sources of upside noted above are all core to NLRs strategy and we have
been encouraged so far by the management teams delivery of the targets it has
set itself since IPO. We think that some of these upside opportunities could
materialise in the next 3-4 months, hence our move to BUY.
cheers GF.
Madison
- 26 Apr 2005 09:48
- 898 of 1341
Up 9p now. (Still incorrect on stockwatch)
Madison
- 28 Apr 2005 09:22
- 899 of 1341
stockdog - looks like your time is approaching fast!
Cheers, Madison