Yes same result, also tried older Java versions, Can not understand why Opera browser runs OK, someone did tell me that Opera has something built in for Java

Only thing that I can think of is that it is something to do with your fonts.

You could try playing around with your themes, or possibly create a new user and try running under that.

-- Optimist,

You don't need to get DHCP from the modem - all you need to do is get the router to connect to the modem, and switch on DHCP in the router. That will supply addresses for all the devices connected to it. As the modem is on the WAN side of the router, it doesn't need to be in the same address range.

So, for example, my Virgin modem appears to my network to be at 192.169.100.1, the router is at 192.168.0.1 and all the network devices are at 192.168.0.2 upwards

My PC has shut itself down twice in the last month.

I know I should open it up and look for gunge.

But in the meantime is there a bit of freeware I can load to monitor any temperature info that it may be picking up.

If you spot this, Exec, it is one of those Viper jobbies from the doctors.

TP

TP

Bing for 'MBM5'

It used to be a very comprehensive motherboard monitor although I don't know how up to date it now is.

TP
Lavalys Everest Home Edition (free)

Edit: Major Geeks is a good site.

Clubman3509:

Most browsers use the Java 'plug-in' whereas Opera uses the normal Java J2SE (Standard Edition) runtime. That would probably explain any quirks, although the plug-in and J2SE *should* behave the same.

MM

I have been advised that the only reason Opera shows the stockwatch OK is because I have run it under the Windows 7 option XP revert unfortunetly you can not do this with IE8 browser. The Dell expert reckons Moneyam site does not support Windows 7 with browser IE8 and the problem is with their website.

I'm seeing 80 C.

I'm guessing that it too hot.

That's with Everest.

EDIT. Took the side off. No obvious signs of muck. But there is only one fan -on the board. When I was working our office PC's had fans on the power units (I thought).

TP

TP, isn't there a fan in the metal box of the power supply, visible from the outside of the case? Is it not spinning? If not, that is your problem.

K,

You are right. And it is spinning.

When I took the side off it looked like a sealed metal box from the inside. So I don't think there is any way I can hoover it or similar.

TP

You do need to check that 80C is correct. The program needs to be configured to look at the right sensor in the right place. Sometimes sensors turn out to be duff ones. Also, some computers have a CPU sensor and a sensor elsewhere on the board.

K,

I thought that 80 was way over the top. Should it not be nearer 40?

I'd try that MBN5 if I could find a version that looked appropriate - but I'm nervous about running one not intended to work with Vista and my board.

TP

TP
No1
MB 31C
CPU 34C
HD 33C

No2
MB 31C
CPU 40C
HD 39C

This is just idling.
If your runnig the CPU at 100% the temp probably
would rise, but not that high.
Edit.
Ran antispyware for 5min40.
Temp rose 1C and held afterwards.
Same scan run on No2. 6min.
Temp rose to 49 then 51C.
The first run was 50-100% (old comp)
Second comp (newer) was only peaking to 50%.

On my old PC, I had plenty of temperature problems. I was advised to clean the inside of the case carefully with an air duster, paying particular attention to the CPU fan. It turned out eventually that the fan on the graphics card was failing. Once that was replaced, all was fine....until the whole PC packed in a few months later!

I understand there's some software out there that can help reduce CPU temperature.

EDIT: Found the link: CPU Idle

MBM has not been developed for a few years, but try Speedfan which does a lot more besides.

80C is extremely hot if it's correct. Most processors are meant to run around 40C, but some Intel ones and even more AMD ones run much hotter, but I would have thought that 60C is pretty much the sensible limit.

To be honest, if there is no lint in the fans or casing and the fans appear to be running normally I doubt whether the problem is a heat one. Mind you the fans could be running but running too slowly.

My Speedfan report:-



Again something is at 80 degrees. But it can't be anything important as I'd be having real problems I gather.

TP

Maybe this is more meaningful.



Do those chip numbers provide a clue?

TP

You're burning up TP :-)

Seriously, in order to make sense of all that you would need to look into the configuration in much more detail. The CPU temperatures reported by the CPU itself look like 27 and 28, which sound too low, but that would need to be confirmed, and there appear to be two Temp1's. 35C could be right for the motherboard temperature. The other Temp1 is likely to be your graphics card. 82C is not unusual for a graphics card.

Looking at the second screen, that is all probably right.