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PC & MAC CLINIC - On line problem solving. (CPU)     

Crocodile - 16 Dec 2002 03:59

tyketto - 24 Feb 2010 10:55 - 8843 of 11003

TP
Lavalys Everest Home Edition (free)

Edit: Major Geeks is a good site.

MightyMicro - 24 Feb 2010 13:11 - 8844 of 11003

Clubman3509:

Most browsers use the Java 'plug-in' whereas Opera uses the normal Java J2SE (Standard Edition) runtime. That would probably explain any quirks, although the plug-in and J2SE *should* behave the same.

MM

Clubman3509 - 24 Feb 2010 13:59 - 8845 of 11003

I have been advised that the only reason Opera shows the stockwatch OK is because I have run it under the Windows 7 option XP revert unfortunetly you can not do this with IE8 browser. The Dell expert reckons Moneyam site does not support Windows 7 with browser IE8 and the problem is with their website.

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 15:36 - 8846 of 11003

I'm seeing 80 C.

I'm guessing that it too hot.

That's with Everest.

EDIT. Took the side off. No obvious signs of muck. But there is only one fan -on the board. When I was working our office PC's had fans on the power units (I thought).

TP

Kayak - 24 Feb 2010 16:11 - 8847 of 11003

TP, isn't there a fan in the metal box of the power supply, visible from the outside of the case? Is it not spinning? If not, that is your problem.

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 16:50 - 8848 of 11003

K,

You are right. And it is spinning.

When I took the side off it looked like a sealed metal box from the inside. So I don't think there is any way I can hoover it or similar.

TP

Kayak - 24 Feb 2010 16:59 - 8849 of 11003

You do need to check that 80C is correct. The program needs to be configured to look at the right sensor in the right place. Sometimes sensors turn out to be duff ones. Also, some computers have a CPU sensor and a sensor elsewhere on the board.

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 17:06 - 8850 of 11003

K,

I thought that 80 was way over the top. Should it not be nearer 40?

I'd try that MBN5 if I could find a version that looked appropriate - but I'm nervous about running one not intended to work with Vista and my board.

TP

tyketto - 24 Feb 2010 17:28 - 8851 of 11003

TP
No1
MB 31C
CPU 34C
HD 33C

No2
MB 31C
CPU 40C
HD 39C

This is just idling.
If your runnig the CPU at 100% the temp probably
would rise, but not that high.
Edit.
Ran antispyware for 5min40.
Temp rose 1C and held afterwards.
Same scan run on No2. 6min.
Temp rose to 49 then 51C.
The first run was 50-100% (old comp)
Second comp (newer) was only peaking to 50%.

klal - 24 Feb 2010 18:07 - 8852 of 11003

On my old PC, I had plenty of temperature problems. I was advised to clean the inside of the case carefully with an air duster, paying particular attention to the CPU fan. It turned out eventually that the fan on the graphics card was failing. Once that was replaced, all was fine....until the whole PC packed in a few months later!

I understand there's some software out there that can help reduce CPU temperature.

EDIT: Found the link: CPU Idle

Kayak - 24 Feb 2010 18:33 - 8853 of 11003

MBM has not been developed for a few years, but try Speedfan which does a lot more besides.

80C is extremely hot if it's correct. Most processors are meant to run around 40C, but some Intel ones and even more AMD ones run much hotter, but I would have thought that 60C is pretty much the sensible limit.

To be honest, if there is no lint in the fans or casing and the fans appear to be running normally I doubt whether the problem is a heat one. Mind you the fans could be running but running too slowly.

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 19:21 - 8854 of 11003

My Speedfan report:-



Again something is at 80 degrees. But it can't be anything important as I'd be having real problems I gather.

TP

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 19:29 - 8855 of 11003

Maybe this is more meaningful.



Do those chip numbers provide a clue?

TP

Kayak - 24 Feb 2010 19:32 - 8856 of 11003

You're burning up TP :-)

Seriously, in order to make sense of all that you would need to look into the configuration in much more detail. The CPU temperatures reported by the CPU itself look like 27 and 28, which sound too low, but that would need to be confirmed, and there appear to be two Temp1's. 35C could be right for the motherboard temperature. The other Temp1 is likely to be your graphics card. 82C is not unusual for a graphics card.

Kayak - 24 Feb 2010 19:34 - 8857 of 11003

Looking at the second screen, that is all probably right.

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 19:49 - 8858 of 11003

Thanks K,

I'll google that IT8718 tomorrow.

TP

Optimist - 25 Feb 2010 08:31 - 8859 of 11003

TP

I'm sure there are better sources, but this is the first I found temp range 5 - 73.3 deg C.

ThePublisher - 25 Feb 2010 08:33 - 8860 of 11003

Opt,

Wow - that is a huge range.

TP

Optimist - 25 Feb 2010 08:55 - 8861 of 11003

TP

Not really, the 5 deg min is actually high. If you used a computer in your car on a cold morning, you would excpect it to work.

The real operating range will be more like 35 to 73 (or maybe 80 in your case).

ThePublisher - 25 Feb 2010 08:58 - 8862 of 11003

Google says this in a thread about Speedfan.

"an abandoned sensor from that Super IO IT8718F chip, just untick it so it won't bug you anymore at the main screen."

One last picture from Core Temp this time:-



EDIT. That Core Temp jobby is great fun as I now have two little temperature readings in my task bar. Now I can see how hard I am working!!

TP
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