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PC & MAC CLINIC - On line problem solving. (CPU)     

Crocodile - 16 Dec 2002 03:59

Kayak - 24 Feb 2010 18:33 - 8853 of 11003

MBM has not been developed for a few years, but try Speedfan which does a lot more besides.

80C is extremely hot if it's correct. Most processors are meant to run around 40C, but some Intel ones and even more AMD ones run much hotter, but I would have thought that 60C is pretty much the sensible limit.

To be honest, if there is no lint in the fans or casing and the fans appear to be running normally I doubt whether the problem is a heat one. Mind you the fans could be running but running too slowly.

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 19:21 - 8854 of 11003

My Speedfan report:-



Again something is at 80 degrees. But it can't be anything important as I'd be having real problems I gather.

TP

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 19:29 - 8855 of 11003

Maybe this is more meaningful.



Do those chip numbers provide a clue?

TP

Kayak - 24 Feb 2010 19:32 - 8856 of 11003

You're burning up TP :-)

Seriously, in order to make sense of all that you would need to look into the configuration in much more detail. The CPU temperatures reported by the CPU itself look like 27 and 28, which sound too low, but that would need to be confirmed, and there appear to be two Temp1's. 35C could be right for the motherboard temperature. The other Temp1 is likely to be your graphics card. 82C is not unusual for a graphics card.

Kayak - 24 Feb 2010 19:34 - 8857 of 11003

Looking at the second screen, that is all probably right.

ThePublisher - 24 Feb 2010 19:49 - 8858 of 11003

Thanks K,

I'll google that IT8718 tomorrow.

TP

Optimist - 25 Feb 2010 08:31 - 8859 of 11003

TP

I'm sure there are better sources, but this is the first I found temp range 5 - 73.3 deg C.

ThePublisher - 25 Feb 2010 08:33 - 8860 of 11003

Opt,

Wow - that is a huge range.

TP

Optimist - 25 Feb 2010 08:55 - 8861 of 11003

TP

Not really, the 5 deg min is actually high. If you used a computer in your car on a cold morning, you would excpect it to work.

The real operating range will be more like 35 to 73 (or maybe 80 in your case).

ThePublisher - 25 Feb 2010 08:58 - 8862 of 11003

Google says this in a thread about Speedfan.

"an abandoned sensor from that Super IO IT8718F chip, just untick it so it won't bug you anymore at the main screen."

One last picture from Core Temp this time:-



EDIT. That Core Temp jobby is great fun as I now have two little temperature readings in my task bar. Now I can see how hard I am working!!

TP

Optimist - 25 Feb 2010 12:43 - 8863 of 11003

Microsoft are now including the browser ballot with Windows update as directed by the EU.

For myself, I am perfectly happy with IE8, but even those people who are not, are perfectly capable of choosing an alternative browser for themselves without having the process forced on them by the Common Market.

If you are running Win XP then the update will be forced on you, my copies of Win 7 have presented the update as an opt in option though I wouldn't count on that not being changed.

If you want to avoid the browser ballot, switch off automatic updates, then run windows update.

In Win XP choose the custom option, and review the important updates, goto the browser update and de-select it. Then click the + next to it and check the 'Don't show this again box'. Continue to install the remaining updates and then re enable auto updates.

In Win 7, click on the important updates link, goto the browser update and make sure it is de-selected. Then right click on it and click hide details. Continue to install the remaining updates and then re enable auto updates.

If you allow this update to be installed, it will unpin IE8 from the Win 7 taskbar and most likely make other changes.

Optimist - 25 Feb 2010 14:03 - 8864 of 11003

If you want to install alternative browsers or any other free software, I've just found this site reccomended by David Fearon in PCPro.

ThePublisher - 25 Feb 2010 14:18 - 8865 of 11003

Opt,

Why don't you like the ballot?

Firefox is my default. Opera is what I use quite a bit of the time. IE is simply sitting there in my quickstart box for the odd time the other two can't read a page. How will the ballot set me back?

That other site you suggest is interesting.

TP



Optimist - 25 Feb 2010 15:15 - 8866 of 11003

TP

I don't like the ballot because I have my machines set up the way I want them and object to the EU forcing updates onto my computer that I neither want or need.

Anybody who cares enough can (and very likely have) install any number of browsers should they want to.

All this browser election scheme will do is confuse those people who don't care about or don't understand browsers, and make difficult to reverse (for them) changes to their computers.

At least it looks as though the Common Market is now turning their sights on Google, I still don't think it's anything to do with them, but if ever there was a company that neeeded taking down a peg or ten ...

jeffmack - 28 Feb 2010 08:12 - 8867 of 11003

Opto
I believe you have the acer aspire one netbook? Did you install Win7 on it? What version and did you have any problems? Did Win7 take care of all the drivers or did you need to look for some? 64 or 32 bit?

Cheers

Optimist - 28 Feb 2010 10:07 - 8868 of 11003

Jeff

I installed Win 7 Ultimate with no problems at all. It will only run the 32 bit version.

I run a very minimal system, only the Microsoft AV and where possible I use portable versions of any programs including Open Office and Thunderbird so they do not have any overhead when not in use.

I think it runs faster than it did with the original Linux OS.

jeffmack - 28 Feb 2010 10:27 - 8869 of 11003

I have WinXP on mine at the moment. Do you think it will be faster with Win7?
Cheers

Optimist - 28 Feb 2010 10:47 - 8870 of 11003

I have never done an upgrade from XP to Win 7, so can't be certain, but the most important thing for the performance of netbooks is to keep the used resources to a minimum, it is just too easy to overload them.

Windoew 7 is very good at memory and resource management, so my gues is that it would be better overall.

The other no brainer for using Win 7 (Business or Ultimate) is that it has bitlocker drive encryption although with the Aspire 1, you would need a USB key to boot it.

jeffmack - 28 Feb 2010 11:00 - 8871 of 11003

Cheers Opto

Oakapples142 - 01 Mar 2010 10:24 - 8872 of 11003

After updating JAVA is it correct and/or possible to delete earlier updates
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