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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 01 Feb 2008 21:04 - 886 of 21973

confess to being amazed that wall street finished so strongly ... fully expected a big sell off in last 30 or whatever ..... certainly an ace day for me today, and from memory, for too much has happened in the interim, i think a good week overall too

cynic - 02 Feb 2008 08:24 - 887 of 21973

as mentioned above, was very surprised indeed to see strength in US last night but find it hard to trust or believe that it can hold ..... Dow is now very close (12757) to the chart-critical level of 12800 and would be amazed if it blazed straight through that

spitfire43 - 03 Feb 2008 09:54 - 888 of 21973

Charting is a area I have lacked knowledge, so I haved started to study it, starting with moving averages. A Dead Cross is a very significant event, this happens when the 50ma moves down through 200ma and the 200ma also move downwards. Look at the FTSE 100 chart below, this happened appx 7th January, the last time it occurred was the end of 2000 and lasted to 2003.

The price now is moving up, and the resistance should be at the 50ma which is at 6150, this will be a crucial week to decide where the FTSE is trending. I would be interested to hear from people with charting knowledge, if I have read these charts correctly.

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=UKX&Si

BigTed - 03 Feb 2008 16:53 - 889 of 21973

Its my belief that charting can give an excellant foresight to market direction if fully understood, that is all, carry on...

bhunt1910 - 04 Feb 2008 07:52 - 890 of 21973

well done you guys - I like it when people make profits. I like it even better when I make profits - but for now content to watch a bit and learn a bit.

BigTed - 04 Feb 2008 12:02 - 891 of 21973

When the market direction is not obvious, the problem becomes where to set your stop, how much leeway do you give yourself? I was short of the Dow earlier, but left it until i thought the trend was down, ie it was already negative and having placed quite a tight stop, it duly got triggered as half hour later the market rose, it appears to have levelled out right on the level of my stop (typical!). So timing is utmost and perhaps being a bit more liberal with one's stop???!!!

cynic - 04 Feb 2008 12:11 - 892 of 21973

good morning Ted .... i removed the stops from my Dow short, for though i remain confident that it will finish down on the day, it is not impossible that there will be some sort of flourish early on ..... i still maintain that economic realisation will register and that markets will retrench .... quite how far back is anyone's guess

BigTed - 04 Feb 2008 12:19 - 893 of 21973

Yes Rich, right with you, just trying to measure if the rally still has any steam left, told myself to be strict with stops whilst i play around and get used to trying to call the markets direction, but as i just stated above, after a short move up (and triggering my stop) the market stopped at that level and is now retreating... its almost as if they knew my limit and did it on purpose..!!!

cynic - 04 Feb 2008 12:32 - 894 of 21973

that often proves to be the case .... or sp falls just after purchase!

Falcothou - 04 Feb 2008 15:04 - 895 of 21973

Does anyone know a good way to see RSI for FTSE DOW and DAX to establish overbought/sold and if so is there room on this thread for it?

ptholden - 04 Feb 2008 15:09 - 896 of 21973

Like this you mean? Just ask Cynic to add a chart into the header.

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=UKX&Si

cynic - 04 Feb 2008 15:22 - 897 of 21973

there are several charts of mine pn page 1!

BigTed - 04 Feb 2008 15:30 - 898 of 21973

Dont be lazy Cyners, come on lets have a chart in the header, its sooo much easier to see... i keep campaigning for charts in all the headers, but no-one listens...!

Falcothou - 04 Feb 2008 15:32 - 899 of 21973

Thanks guys forgot about page 1!

cynic - 04 Feb 2008 15:33 - 900 of 21973

as there are 6/8 of them, i felt it easier to post them separately ..... who's being lazy?

ptholden - 04 Feb 2008 15:55 - 901 of 21973

Incidentally, although often used as such the RSI is not an overbought / oversold indicator.

BigTed - 04 Feb 2008 15:55 - 902 of 21973

Lol...

explosive - 04 Feb 2008 19:22 - 903 of 21973

Evening all haven't bothered today, not liked what I've see..... Here we go we're on the charts are we... When doing indicies, a candlestick with MACD, RSI, Momentum, Volitality, Bandwidth e.g. BB & Stochastic would be the norm for me... Horrible subject so I'm going to sit this one out, after the basics I think everyones different....

BigTed - 04 Feb 2008 22:16 - 904 of 21973

My dummy run this evening was short on FTSE at 6002, with 5 minutes to go, on a prediction that the market will be quite heavily in the red come 8.30 tomorrow morning... will have to see...

explosive - 05 Feb 2008 00:26 - 905 of 21973

I think the FTSE will trade sideways finishing 6040, there may be a good range tomorrow to play. I'm not one to bet from first thing 'the volitile open' as I prefer to play a trend or range (if big enough).
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