required field
- 03 Feb 2016 10:00
Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....
grannyboy
- 19 Apr 2016 12:04
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53% of exports now go to outside the EU....
Hope you pro eu remainers are watching Michael Gove on Sky news...
You might learn something resembling the TRUTH..
cynic
- 19 Apr 2016 12:05
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speaking too fast is an elementary error, and for a "professional" that is inexcusable
reading too much will also come across poorly
will10
- 19 Apr 2016 12:10
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Cynic
Thanks for insight.
Presumably you operate in dollars or Euros and only cash out into £ when FX rates suit. Do you see any problems if UK has currency exchange swings.
I would put you down as a service industry and not a manufacturer, but maybe you don't show up as a UK Co. anyway. It sounds as if in or out will have little effect on your sales as you don't trade much in EU. Even if you do its ok because you are in the single market. Your suppliers have an arrangement of some sort to put stuff into the EU already. Nothing comes to UK so no UK taxes
Don't answer if you prefer. If you were a UK Co would you actually be operating in your field now.? Or is being in NL what makes it work?. Obviously you pay NL taxes on company profits and UK tax where necessary.
I suspect we lost your UK business to Europe and this will likely happen to more on our exit. If only because trade deals that already exist under EU will be lost to us.
Thanks. it helps when we are told about a real world company.
will10
- 19 Apr 2016 12:13
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Gove
Don't make me laugh what's he ever done for us.
Fred1new
- 19 Apr 2016 12:14
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Manuel.
The answer to your question is that some of my postings are for the consumption of self-interested opinionated little individuals like yourself.
A question of getting one's retaliation in first!
Economies wax and wane.
Remember the subject "Auf Wiedersehen, Pet" was written around.
Boasting about the strength of the UK economy is at the moment in comparison to the EU in the future is questionable.
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It will be interesting to think about the "use" the USA makes of the Uk in relationship to the EU and whether they will dump that "relationship".
Mind Obama is probably another idiot in Jumbo B mind.
jimmy b
- 19 Apr 2016 12:17
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Fred is a sicko an extremist who wants to ruin our country .
Just remember Fred HATES Britain and everything we stand for ,if you are patriotic he HATES you ,he is as bad as some of the extremists we have let in .
Stan
- 19 Apr 2016 12:18
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So JB instead of simply answering the question you can only resort abuse.. but sadly that comes as no surprise to anyone these days on here.
The question remains unanswered after many attempts of giving you outers the chance to give an explanation.. I wonder why.
Once again:
"Can some of you outers answer this, If we want to sell into the EU from outside how do we not abide by their free movement of Labour rules?"
cynic
- 19 Apr 2016 12:20
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we run multi currency accounts and little of our expenditure is in £
international shipping remains in $, but many of of european-based clients prefer € even though they will mostly be trading deep sea (internationally)
it was pure happenstance that we relocated h/o to NL, though partly because NL banks are much more commercially minded when it come to companies with "movable assets"!
imo, uk banks are a complete disgrace ....... they are singularly obstructive and unhelpful, yet pretend to the world that they support small and medium businesses ..... oh hahaha!
apart from north sea oilfield biz, we do little in uk, in part because it is so incredibly expensive to move stuff across the country and then across the channel
Chris Carson
- 19 Apr 2016 12:22
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If you are not happy in England Freda, why don't you just Foxtrot Oscar back to Wales?
You could lend a hand in the Labour run hospitals that are thriving. Then you could call yourself a Little Welsh Twat!
cynic
- 19 Apr 2016 12:23
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fred - you really are such a pompous and supercilious little twerp
Fred1new
- 19 Apr 2016 12:23
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Stan,
Jumbo is just another self-opinionated abusive little man.
Reminds me of the football hooligans and the "up and at em brigade".
I would expect the EU would be glad to get rid of him.
Fred1new
- 19 Apr 2016 12:29
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Mind.
Jumbo and Manuel like the con artists, Gove included, generally attack the messenger when they don't like the message.
Adolescent behaviour. Stunted upbringing. Poor education.
MaxK
- 19 Apr 2016 12:31
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Gove came across well...no theatrics, just solid reasons for bailing out. Even the journos couldn't find much to nit-pick about.
cynic
- 19 Apr 2016 12:33
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fred - your message - ie why we should stay in eu - is fine albeit that, should you ever get to a polling booth, you will vote differently from me
it's your supercilious belittling of all others that is so objectionable
therefore, would i shoot the messenger?
in this instance, a beheading would be better
will10
- 19 Apr 2016 12:38
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cynic
Thanks Respect.
Gove has played his hand too early. Boris has set him up.
He has gone straight for the throats of Davy boy, Osborne and Mrs May. They must be fuming and penning their replies even as we speak. This has set the Tory party up for open warfare, there is no way back now, it's blue on blue.
Stand back and enjoy. The Tories have been held on a short leash for years, now it will be open war.
Severe damage will result.
In or out the Tories will be split. The EU vote is cover for Tory wars.
cynic
- 19 Apr 2016 12:41
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will - it would be foolish to pretend that labour is not similarly split, though clearly they are under a 3-line whip not to rock the boat
MaxK
- 19 Apr 2016 12:47
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And that wont last.
will10
- 19 Apr 2016 12:56
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Cynic
Yes, for sure Labour has splits too. It should be possible for all politicians to lobby for in or out without ripping their party apart.
But for the many Tories this is THE battle for the soul of the party. In and out are not happy in the same Tory party, they hate each other and now have the green light to go for it. After this in/out vote the winner gets called the new Tories. Those that lose the vote will not stay.
Perhaps we will get a re alinement in UK politics. Maybe even the loss of our left wing/right wing set up and a new grouping based around in and out.
Who knows. All change is good.
cynic
- 19 Apr 2016 12:58
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after the referendum, they'll all kiss and make up - before stabbing assorted fellows in the back
Fred1new
- 19 Apr 2016 12:59
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Cynic,
"an opinionated pain"
Your description of yourself suggests you have some insight into yourself.
You remind of a miniature Peekapoo which I saw the other day, looking up his own ---- and looking for admiration from others around it.
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PS.
Some members of the present neo-con party can't even speak to one another.
Splitting more and more and more interested in self-advancement that the country.