rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

well done you guys - I like it when people make profits. I like it even better when I make profits - but for now content to watch a bit and learn a bit.

When the market direction is not obvious, the problem becomes where to set your stop, how much leeway do you give yourself? I was short of the Dow earlier, but left it until i thought the trend was down, ie it was already negative and having placed quite a tight stop, it duly got triggered as half hour later the market rose, it appears to have levelled out right on the level of my stop (typical!). So timing is utmost and perhaps being a bit more liberal with one's stop???!!!

good morning Ted .... i removed the stops from my Dow short, for though i remain confident that it will finish down on the day, it is not impossible that there will be some sort of flourish early on ..... i still maintain that economic realisation will register and that markets will retrench .... quite how far back is anyone's guess

Yes Rich, right with you, just trying to measure if the rally still has any steam left, told myself to be strict with stops whilst i play around and get used to trying to call the markets direction, but as i just stated above, after a short move up (and triggering my stop) the market stopped at that level and is now retreating... its almost as if they knew my limit and did it on purpose..!!!

that often proves to be the case .... or sp falls just after purchase!

Does anyone know a good way to see RSI for FTSE DOW and DAX to establish overbought/sold and if so is there room on this thread for it?

Like this you mean? Just ask Cynic to add a chart into the header.

there are several charts of mine pn page 1!

Dont be lazy Cyners, come on lets have a chart in the header, its sooo much easier to see... i keep campaigning for charts in all the headers, but no-one listens...!

Thanks guys forgot about page 1!

as there are 6/8 of them, i felt it easier to post them separately ..... who's being lazy?

Incidentally, although often used as such the RSI is not an overbought / oversold indicator.

Lol...

Evening all haven't bothered today, not liked what I've see..... Here we go we're on the charts are we... When doing indicies, a candlestick with MACD, RSI, Momentum, Volitality, Bandwidth e.g. BB & Stochastic would be the norm for me... Horrible subject so I'm going to sit this one out, after the basics I think everyones different....

My dummy run this evening was short on FTSE at 6002, with 5 minutes to go, on a prediction that the market will be quite heavily in the red come 8.30 tomorrow morning... will have to see...

I think the FTSE will trade sideways finishing 6040, there may be a good range tomorrow to play. I'm not one to bet from first thing 'the volitile open' as I prefer to play a trend or range (if big enough).

I have a short target of 5971 -55 for this morning, but believe the trading band will be narrow for next few hours. As for the afternoon, I haven't a clue.

Tricky one at the mo, 6000 is lending support and dow not really giving much away at mo, not sure we are awaiting any significant data from states later? If i followed my instinct, its only a matter of time before the next batch of horrible news takes the Dow to low 11,000's, but its how high it climbs first...

Eurozone retail at 10 am and USD ISM Non-Manufacturing (JAN) at 3pm seem to be the key events from the forex thread

I don't think 6000 will offer much support, the FTSE is down 29 at moment, the dow futures down 29 and dax 24. If dow and dax track lower, so will the FTSE.