Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

I see it's all been kicking off here today , leave you remoaners alone for a day and your all whining .

hilary.......
So, if you don't import your Mercs and Beemers from Germany, where will you buy your wheels post-Brexit? Will you all be driving crappy Chryslers from the US? Or Tuk Tuks from India?.................

Hilary , your car argument certainly does not stack up . i have driven German cars for years (love them) however there are now so many good quality makes out there ,cars that were rubbish brands years ago.

Jimbo,

Brexit is not going to alter demand for flash German cars, or any of the other quality produce that comes from inside the EU. You and Dil might be happy to drive Asian cars and drink wine from the southern hemisphere, but there are an equal number of people who aren't, and they'll still want access to the EU's finest produce. So, Maggie Dismay will doubtless agree an 11th hour trade deal with the EU, that will probably include freedom of movement, and you'll end up in a post-Brexit Britain that doesn't look a lot different to the pre-Brexit Britain that you're so unhappy with.

Is that what you voted for?

Everything is going to be fine except you remoaners will probably never accept you were wrong .

Don't you come peddling your euro trash here, madam. You'll be promoting german coal plants next. If things pan out the way you predict, we Brexiteers will be revolting. Maybe we'll go as far as to be downright disgusting.

All I ever wanted to happen about 'EU immigration', was for a limit to be put on it. In other words the UK needed to be 'in control of it' and not 'not in control of it'. We needed to be in charge of it and not Brussels. I felt it was utterly ridiculous for the EU to have an uncontrolled complete freedom of movement for people. In theory, this meant they could all end up moving to just one country or even emptying another completely.

I also have the opinion, that most EU immigrants are hard working people who want to do well for themselves and particularly, for their family. This means we benefit greatly from having them. Surely to goodness though, there needs to be some sort of theoretical controls in place?

So I'm not anti-EU immigration, I am actually pro-EU immigration - that is, providing there are UK controls put in place. Complete freedom of movement without any controls at all is just so utterly stupid! Freedom of movement just isn't comfortable to believe in. Like Nigel famously postulated: without controls, I might end up with 5,000 Romanians moving into my local area.

And going back a few years, the UK had a such a benevolent benefits system, it had created a massive work-shy UK work force. Such a lot of people were not very motivated and happy to just live a life on benefits. Not so with the work ethic illustrated by the EU immigrants.

So I easily recognised what was best for 'us': ie. hard working EU immigrants - as against lazy, work-shy Brits. I don't actually feel a need to apologise for having that belief either.

I also believe we will do better for ourselves out of the EU than in it. And I also want us to govern ourselves rather than be governed by Brussels. That's why I'm a big fan of listening to what the likes of Nigel Farage and Jacob Rees-Mogg have to say about things.

Robbed from across the road :-)


nhs buyer
29 Mar '18 - 10:21 - 1674 of 1675
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BREAKING NHS NEWS



JEREMY Hunt has announced that the national health service (NHS) is to be replaced by time, which heals all wounds at no cost to the taxpayer.

The health minister’s new scheme to beat the NHS crisis is being trialled in Northern constituencies and early projections suggest it will save the government billions.

He said: “You don’t need disinfectant, sterile gauze, a qualified nursing team and an expensive consultant.

"All you need is time.

“This traditional common-sense approach, relied on for Britons for the centuries before we joined the EU, will soon replace our malfunctioning NHS entirely.

Though of course private healthcare will still be available.

“After all, not only does time heal all wounds, time is also a great healer.

We’ve been foolish to try and compete.”

Dr Helen Archer, who works in a Birmingham A&E department, said: “Certainly it is true that after a 12 to 18 hour wait, up to 40 per cent of patients no longer require medical attention.

“However, there is a downside.”

Jimbo,

I realise that you're not the brightest bulb in the box, and I've tried thus far to make allowances for that, but at what point have I ever said that I voted remain, or that I am a 'Remoaner'? I believe the only thing I've ever said on this thread is that Brexit doesn't affect me, and that my husband and I allowed our children to vote for us by proxy. Are you that paranoid that anybody who offers an opposing view has to be labelled a 'Remoaner' now?

Maybe you could also enlighten me as what it is exactly that I'm supposed to have been wrong about and getting over. And, perhaps more saliently, what exactly is it that you think you're right about?

hilary i'm bright enough thanks and you just showed your hand as someone who likes to insult people who don't agree with you.
You are in my mind wrong on a lot of your statements about Brexit ,you think i am wrong, that's fine to disagree ,don't sit on your high horse and insult people .

Jimbo,

If you were that bright, you'd have understood what playing Devil's Advocate meant!

Don't take it to heart Jim. There is always someone worse off than you. Imagine what Hilary's husband has to put up with if he crosses her. I am reliably informed that Mountain Rescue have tied a bell to his parka after he tried several times to end it all by walking out in a blizzard. He is known locally as the Titus Oates of the Tyrrol.

That's funny iturama

i must have misheard - thought is was the Tightest Arsehole as he never leaves a decent tip :-)

Iturama,

My husband is less tolerant of fools than I am. And are you aware that the Tyrol straddles Italy and Austria?

does tyrol have a pretty sister too?

Hils

And do you straddle Titus Oates of the Tyrol?

:-)

Behave yourselves. It is Good Friday. I blame it on the parents.

8936. I'm amazed he managed to get that far Hilary.

There are too many Finns in Finland but the problem is solvable...


https://youtu.be/RQptgKWYHTc

Lol , what a bloody cheek.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/public-backs-fresh-referendum-apos-234722054.html

Read the article , then get to this bit ................

The YouGov poll – of 813 people – also found a narrow lead to remain in the EU, should a further referendum be staged, of 44 per cent to 41 per cent.........................

813 people !! where did they poll them ? London ? i bet it wasn't scunthorpe or Boston or a group of fishermen on the East Coast ,how can a poll of 813 people represent the British public far and wide anyway.