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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 29 Mar 2018 22:43 - 8931 of 12628

hilary i'm bright enough thanks and you just showed your hand as someone who likes to insult people who don't agree with you.
You are in my mind wrong on a lot of your statements about Brexit ,you think i am wrong, that's fine to disagree ,don't sit on your high horse and insult people .

hilary - 30 Mar 2018 07:26 - 8932 of 12628

Jimbo,

If you were that bright, you'd have understood what playing Devil's Advocate meant!

iturama - 30 Mar 2018 08:25 - 8933 of 12628

Don't take it to heart Jim. There is always someone worse off than you. Imagine what Hilary's husband has to put up with if he crosses her. I am reliably informed that Mountain Rescue have tied a bell to his parka after he tried several times to end it all by walking out in a blizzard. He is known locally as the Titus Oates of the Tyrrol.

jimmy b - 30 Mar 2018 09:17 - 8934 of 12628

That's funny iturama

cynic - 30 Mar 2018 09:30 - 8935 of 12628

i must have misheard - thought is was the Tightest Arsehole as he never leaves a decent tip :-)

hilary - 30 Mar 2018 12:10 - 8936 of 12628

Iturama,

My husband is less tolerant of fools than I am. And are you aware that the Tyrol straddles Italy and Austria?

cynic - 30 Mar 2018 12:15 - 8937 of 12628

does tyrol have a pretty sister too?

ExecLine - 30 Mar 2018 12:45 - 8938 of 12628

Hils

And do you straddle Titus Oates of the Tyrol?

:-)

jimmy b - 30 Mar 2018 13:13 - 8939 of 12628

iturama - 30 Mar 2018 13:40 - 8940 of 12628

Behave yourselves. It is Good Friday. I blame it on the parents.

8936. I'm amazed he managed to get that far Hilary.

iturama - 03 Apr 2018 21:02 - 8941 of 12628

There are too many Finns in Finland but the problem is solvable...


https://youtu.be/RQptgKWYHTc

Dil - 04 Apr 2018 10:46 - 8942 of 12628

Lol , what a bloody cheek.

jimmy b - 09 Apr 2018 09:21 - 8943 of 12628

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/public-backs-fresh-referendum-apos-234722054.html

Read the article , then get to this bit ................

The YouGov poll – of 813 people – also found a narrow lead to remain in the EU, should a further referendum be staged, of 44 per cent to 41 per cent.........................

813 people !! where did they poll them ? London ? i bet it wasn't scunthorpe or Boston or a group of fishermen on the East Coast ,how can a poll of 813 people represent the British public far and wide anyway.

iturama - 09 Apr 2018 09:59 - 8944 of 12628

Look at who posted that article - Rob Merrick. Calls himself a self-exiled Welshman and citizen of Europe. No agenda there then.
Retweeted "Centrist bastards threatening to set up their own party thereby endangering Jeremy's chances of becoming Prime Minister should just fuck off and stay in the Labour Party". An example of the clear thinking of Momentum. Almost Churchillian in its prose.

jimmy b - 09 Apr 2018 10:19 - 8945 of 12628

I didn't look at who posted that iturama ,that figures .

MaxK - 09 Apr 2018 10:42 - 8946 of 12628


Hungary's Viktor Orbán secures another term with resounding win



Orbán and his Fidesz party projected to take 133 seats with 93% of votes counted, after a heavily anti-migration campaign



Shaun Walker in Budapest

Sun 8 Apr 2018 23.55 BST


Hungary’s anti-migration prime minister, Viktor Orbán, has secured a third consecutive term in office after his Fidesz party won a resounding victory in parliamentary elections on Sunday.


After running a campaign almost exclusively focused on the apparent threat posed by migration, Orbán’s Fidesz will have a majority in parliament and may even regain a two-thirds “supermajority” which allows constitutional changes.

With around 93% of votes counted, Fidesz was projected to take 133 of the parliament’s 199 seats, the minimum required for the supermajority.


Orbán appeared shortly before midnight to claim victory in front of a cheering crowd outside the Fidesz election headquarters on the Danube in Budapest.

“We won,” Orbán said. “We gave ourselves a chance to protect Hungary.”

Second place in the vote went to Jobbik, the far-right party that has attempted to rebrand itself as an anti-corruption centrist force. The party is set to win just 26 seats, and its leader, Gábor Vona, said he would resign.



More: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/08/hungarys-viktor-orban-secures-another-term-with-resounding-win

cynic - 09 Apr 2018 11:09 - 8947 of 12628

the election result in hungary is quite disturbing, as the overwhelming winner for the 3rd time is viktor orban from the pretty (ugly) far right with the distant 2nd-placed party being descendants of the genghis khan democratic party



orban erected a monument in 2014 which says much about his party's political views, as outlined below

Critics of the monument – which depicts Hungary as the Archangel Gabriel being attacked by a German imperial eagle – say it absolves the Hungarian state and Hungarians of their active role in sending some 450,000 Jews to their deaths during the occupation.

MaxK - 13 Apr 2018 15:28 - 8948 of 12628

And another remoaner myth bites the dust...


https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/goldman-sachs-ceo-says-hes-proved-wrong-brexit-far-170345140.html

Dil - 13 Apr 2018 17:51 - 8949 of 12628

So that's another we can add to a long and growing list headed by scaremongers Cammy and Osbourne.

Labour guy on QT last night still spouting the same old shite about us not voting to leave the customs union / single market blah blah blah. Maybe he should have read the literature the government sent to every household , made it clear what would happen if we voted out.

350 days to go.

cynic - 13 Apr 2018 18:01 - 8950 of 12628

i believe he got shot down by some woman on the panel
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