Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

I hope you are right Dil, but she's got form.

Just my belief that she wouldn't be dull enough to do something like that without the support of Boris et al.

A customs union without all the strings attached may be acceptable but then Brussels wouldn't agree to it.

It was reported last week that Germany and its people wanted to see a trade deal with the UK done sooner rather than later and was getting increasingly peed off with EU negotiators and their inflexibility.

There's hope yet of a reasonable deal and if not then just walk away and all bets are off.

Max and Dil,

It is OK.

There is still a Boris and Theresa affair about.

Morning Fred , 324 days to go.

:)

i wonder if Corbyn will actually start leading his party instead of being a limp lettuce
i guess its not impossible that he'll be kicked out and a more electable centrist leader put in his place

Dil,

Are you sure you will last that long?

Where in Wales you from Fred ?

Hope it's Swansea.

Just about sums it up for some!

Why?

Love it! Love it!

JRM tells it how it is concerning the House of Lords voting against the Government and House of Commons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es9qfz_2o-E

Lol Fred at least that willy knows where he stands. No one knows where Corby and his cronies stand on anything except Russia and terrorist organisations.

Are you suffering from your own paranoia and not on Corbyn's supposed positioning?

Hear that Theresa May held hands with Donald Trump and Putin.

I hope she wasn't contaminated.

Mind Theresa. Boris and the Moggy would hold anybody's hand for a deal.

I wonder when, or if Brexit, occurs who will the Brexiters have to blame for their own failures.

Corbyn's supposed positioning ...... fred is right; it's not clear on any subject, and especially not on brexit

btw, ......
"He’s very much his own person,” said Mr Griffiths (leader british communist party), when asked how close Mr Corbyn was to the party. Still, he acknowledged there were “no major differences on immediate issues”, including their shared opposition to Nato and nuclear weapons. And possibly Brexit, too.

Theresa May can't even get the backing of her own party, and the Moggy is relying on IDS and the neo-cons to remain as so-called leader of an out of date tory relics.

Perhaps in the chaos produced by the inspirational Cameron and cronies, it is more sensible not to shooting one's mouth off and thinking and considering the present mess which some idiots in the Con artists' party are cheering about.

Mind I think it probably a minority of true thinking conservatives believe in policies being developed in No 10 and Con Party HQ, but are going along in hope of saving their seats in the next election.

Mind, they will have to hope they get more money from the Cayman Isles and like to support and peddle their fake news and propaganda.

What a bunch of creeps and fellow travelers.

and, given that you proclaim that comrade corbyn runs a democratic party, what has the above to do with corbyn failing to support the wishes of his party in wholeheartedly backing the Remain campaign from the outset?

Here is something to upset Fred and the Remoaners weekend :-)

Nicked from across the road, h/t to GYY



BREXITEER Jacob Rees-Mogg revealed a key trading rule ignored by the House of Lords EU Committee in their latest report will guarantee the UK to carry on with zero tariffs trade before securing a free trade agreement with the Brussels bloc.

Speaking on BBC Daily Politics, the Tory Brexiteer dismantled the latest House of Lords' Brexit report which claimed food prices would soar immediately if the UK did not manage to negotiate a free trade agreement by the end of the transitional period.

Mr Rees-Mogg argued the Committee had completely ignored a fundamental World Trade Organisation rule that will allow the UK to maintain the same trading standards for ten years while negotiating a free trade deal with the EU.

He said: “The House of Lords has missed one very important thing.

That is that if you are in a negotiation for a free trade agreement you can maintain your existing standards for ten years under WTO rules.

So we have ten years from the moment in which we leave the European Union to negotiate a free trade agreement with the EU which would mean we could carry on with our zero tariffs.



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comment:

This is something the report completely ignores, it’s unaware of.

They don’t know what they’re talking about. (like many on this BB)

I’ve read the report, it’s got no reference to this WTO rule."

Asked whether he believed this was another attempt from the upper House to thwart Brexit, he joked: “Well, the Chairman of the Committee is a former member of the EU Parliament so it’s a fairly safe bet that he’s a Remainer.”

for a change that is actually very amusing

Pinched from Traders' Thread.


https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-europe-view-wednesday/daily-briefing-academic-row-adds-to-italian-coalition-mess-idUKKCN1IO0TR