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Traders Thread - Thursday 4th March (REX)     

Crocodile - 03 Mar 2004 21:23

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The major US indexes traded near unchanged ahead of Friday's jobless report. Brown & Jackson replaces finance chief, De La Rue names new CEO

William Hill betting shop chain, reported a big jump in annual profits topping expectations to 170.8 million and made an encouraging start to 2004 with gross win up 17 percent in the first eight weeks.

Rexam beverage can maker reported a rise in annual profit above analysts' forecasts of 273 million pounds and said it looked forward to another good year.

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Fundamentalist - 04 Mar 2004 09:26 - 9 of 25

Melnibone

Still a long suffering SKP holder (LTBH) (from 36p initially with several adds along the way - the last at 66p). The next 4 weeks are going to be interesting with SKP to say the least. At xmas, they announced three new contracts would be signed in the first quarter of this year (which were supposed to happen last year) - that leaves them 4 weeks tops to announce. They announced that they turned down contracts last year on the basis of too low a price. At the end of the quarter ie end march they will release the results for last year which we know are not going to be pretty! If the results are announced and yet again they disappoint on the contracts then I believe that will be the final straw for a lot of long term holders (me included) and the price will head sharply south towards 40p. The flip of the coin is that if the contracts are announced and contain the main launch of Depomorphine then the share price could head towards 100p. There is still a fair level of rumour around on them being a takeover target, mainly based on Fidelity having built up a 15% stake. This is going to be quite volatile upto the end of the month, I guess we may see a climb before the results in anticipation of the contract announcements with either this continuing on results day or a bloodbath depending on the announcement.

All IMHO and any views appreciated

Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 09:40 - 10 of 25

Thanks for that comprehensive reply, Fundamentalist.

If this level holds, we're looking at a 10% return, back
up to the next resistance level at 66/67p imho.

Melnibone.

Fundamentalist - 04 Mar 2004 09:43 - 11 of 25

Is that a chart based/support and resistance view? My gut feel is the next move will be a jump one way or other come results/contract announcements though at the mo I would just be happy if it could find a support level and stick to it.

Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 09:52 - 12 of 25

Just a chart based view of where it seems to find
buyers/sellers to balance the price.

If poor results are already known, wouldn't this be in the price
and explain the fall from 80p?
That's a 25% drop already.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 10:10 - 13 of 25

Had to take my profit on LGEN and HSBA this morning
that I bought previously.

Moved a mental take profit stop up as usual to protect it
and they came down again.

I think they are going higher, but I must maintain discipline
and stick to my trading rules. Without plans and discipline
you are trading on hope, and hope can wipe you out.

Melnibone.

Fundamentalist - 04 Mar 2004 10:12 - 14 of 25

I think the results are priced in but not announcing the forward contracts would be likely to take this even further lower - the management has little credibility left (due to numerous missed promises) and this could be the last straw to many

morose999 - 04 Mar 2004 10:41 - 15 of 25

hello
can anyone suggest a web site that supplies a live pre-open DOW (INDU) chart please.
I use prophet.net for the daily chart but theydon't offer this facility as yet.
thanks


Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 12:24 - 16 of 25

It shows that discipline works. You should always have
a plan, stick to it and trade it.

HSBA has now dropped another 8p below my sold price,
and I thought it was going further up. If I hadn't
maintained discipline and took the profit, I would now
be sat here in hope, watching it melt away.

Melnibone.

stockbunny - 04 Mar 2004 13:53 - 17 of 25

So pleased had to share the grin!!
My Bob the builder (CRY) has come good today, great results
ahh it is so nice when you put faith/cash plus research of course (lol)
into a firm and it comes good!!!
(OK I know it may not last, but it's great for now!!)

seawatcher - 04 Mar 2004 14:04 - 18 of 25

Melnibone,
Excuse these words from a beginner but you are constantly talking such alot of sense. If everyone were to stick by your code we should all be wealthier.
Don't want to embarrass you!!
Actually read your last post, looked at HSBA chart and bought a few long CFD's at 847.2.
Thanks for all posts,
sw

Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 14:48 - 19 of 25

It's very kind of you to say so, seawatcher.

But give yourself a pat on the back.
You've done the research, made the decision, and
are now sat in profit deciding when to take it.

Nice position to be in, well done.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 15:11 - 20 of 25

DAX didn't stay above 4100 for very long, did it?

Lot of nervousness about at these high levels.
Any drop that starts to get momentum behind it
could be quick and severe.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 15:41 - 21 of 25

If the US doesn't make a move higher in the next
30mins, there is the possibility of the FTSE taking
some profits before the close.

If it does this, I may consider opening some new
longs to cover US upside after the FTSE close which
would result in a gap open higher tomorrow morning.
All depends on where we finish.

I can cover any US upside/downside this evening with
S@P spreadbets.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 16:10 - 22 of 25

Doesn't look like I'm going to get the opportunity
to add to my FTSE longs, so I'll just have to play
any movement on the S@P.

Melnibone.

stockbunny - 04 Mar 2004 16:20 - 23 of 25

The FTSE is worrying me slightly 4561 when I last looked a moment
ago, the Dow was dropping so why the steep rise here now?

Melnibone - 04 Mar 2004 16:24 - 24 of 25

It's got me puzzled as well stockbunny.

S@P is also outperforming the DOW and the NAZ.

S@P is only 6 points away from it's highs and the
Dow is still below 10600.

FTSE is on new highs.
DAX, Eustoxx50 and CAC are also riding high.

I don't trust any of this at all.

Melnibone.

stockbunny - 04 Mar 2004 16:27 - 25 of 25

As long as it's not the ol'helium balloon thing...up skyhigh
only to plunge like hell without warning!
Oh well keeps the game interesting I suppose...
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