proptrade
- 22 Jan 2004 11:27
i was wondering if anyone out there had any strong views? this company appears to be delivering and has just turned EBITA positive after a great trading statement last week. seems like upside to +200p once results are out.
any comments or thoughts would be appreciated.
proptrade
- 01 Nov 2004 15:28
- 90 of 602
is noone else watching!
capa
- 01 Nov 2004 15:38
- 91 of 602
Trying not to watch this one proptrade, trying to convince myself that I do not own the shares, that way I will not be tempted to sell.
I have promised myself to hold for a year and best way for me to honour my promise is to pretend I don't own any.
These are a buy and long term hold imo.
capa
proptrade
- 01 Nov 2004 15:42
- 92 of 602
cheers for responding! i shall not be so pleading on my post next time!
capa
- 01 Nov 2004 15:45
- 93 of 602
to quote REM "no, no, no, your not alone"
capa
proptrade
- 01 Nov 2004 15:46
- 94 of 602
i like that...i may use it again sometime!
joehargan1
- 01 Nov 2004 16:41
- 95 of 602
Prop,
I always listen to you and look forward to your posts on ESY. Thanks for keeping the faith..even although it must feel like you a lone voice in thw wilderness at times...I agree with you and capa...serious potential whenever the market comes to it's senses...consolidation would help because currently ESY getting lumped in the sector laggards...the opposite is true. I couldn't believe the 64p on Friday and topped up heavily so I'm happy once again today ...but a sustainable recovery in the SP is what we need..if we get some momentum going I think we should see 100p behind us in next to no time.
ziblot
- 01 Nov 2004 17:01
- 96 of 602
Held for a while @ 149p and will hold. Seems to be a battle with cost of broadband going on but will top up when funds become available. z
proptrade
- 02 Nov 2004 10:14
- 97 of 602
Thx for the comments. I have been round the houses talking to various city guys about this name and the consensus is that ESY is highly differetiated but some brokers have not grasped its true potential.
The conversations I had referred to potential private equity interests sniffing around or existing players here that may want to buy a network as opposed to the virtual lease that in the long run will never fully realise full potential.
The fact is that ESY has a fully paid for network and 40 million in cash. if you add the value of the fixed lines and the cash you virtually equal the existing mkt cap. the simplest maths but i warrant that the mkt doesn't realise that with a working business model that the company has already proved with EBIT positive from next year then everything beyond goes straight to the bottom line.
100p is ultra conservative. i am holding for 200p.
capa
- 02 Nov 2004 10:20
- 98 of 602
proptrade - couldn't agree more, plus I think worthy of mention is the quality of management who have constantly delivered what they have promised. When this company is profitable at the pre-tax level with a substantial cash pile people will wonder why the price was ever as low as it is now.
I bought at 78p and did not have a quid on my mind when doing so.
capa
proptrade
- 02 Nov 2004 10:33
- 99 of 602
capa
you are spot on. the mkt can be so short termist some time. we are dealing with the gem in an unloved sector right now. when sentiment turns around which by the cyclical laws it certainly will, then 100p is a heartbeat away.
look at airlines. a few weeks ago they were mud and now they are mustard. of course there are external issues that have sparked interest there but in that case it was a fall in oil and iceland air buying 10% of easyjet. now look at the sector a few weeks later.
Telco's are so similar. nobody is factoring in that when 3G is launched by the other providers here and the killer app is discovered (probably video clips of football or whatever) then this has a broadband knock on to wire networks themselves. in no time companies will be holding video conferencing via mobile phones and patched in via - you guessed it - enhanced broadband services.
This period we are in now is a pause in the growth of broadband services. the excess capacity will be quickly filled with film downloads, intercompany cross boarder always on video broadband etc etc etc.
ESY has positioned itdelf as a major player with a suitable, working efficient business model and is now well established.
buy it chaps and chapesses.
seawallwalker
- 02 Nov 2004 12:10
- 100 of 602
Hello ESY followers.
Having a look see here.
I have asked protrade a burning question on another thread.
Word is that consolidation of smaller companies is the next viable outcome in that sector
What are his views.
I am sure they will follow shortly.
proptrade
- 02 Nov 2004 12:20
- 101 of 602
consolidation is so close you can smell it. this company is so misunderstood it is almost untrue. basically the problem has been is that its offering is highly differentialted from the likes of Colt and Thus yet it has been tarnished with the same brush.
The will be EBIT positive by next year, they are cashed up and have excellent management who have always delivered (SEY all over!).
anyway, sector is in the doldrums and i can see these pups shooting back up in no time....
proptrade
- 02 Nov 2004 12:42
- 103 of 602
looks like a bottom to me...what so you all think?
seawallwalker
- 02 Nov 2004 16:28
- 104 of 602
Not too sure, there may be a little bit more to go, unless something happens to boost it.
The flattening could well indicate bottom though. Bit more of an up, and it will be away.
I have been looking at KCOM as well, another one that has been dragged down by the results of others.
Difference there is that consolidation is out of the question at the County Council own 51% I believe and have stated no intention of selling the shares.
ESY looks like it may leap at the slightest invitation to a much higher price.
Although I need to look a bit deeper, the signs are there and have been for a while, but why has the price drifted down so much?
I may have a look at this for a short play, and I mean holding for a short time, rather than shorting.
apple
- 02 Nov 2004 16:34
- 105 of 602
Just a thought!
The reasom for the continuing fall may be that it is going to make a bid for another company.
joehargan1
- 02 Nov 2004 16:42
- 106 of 602
good posts above...ESY has been hit hard by the general malaise in internet/telecoms and their interims and trading statements though solid have failed to inspire a cynical investment community. The ESY buisness model is very robust and they have a strong management team in situ. I'm holding on the basis that the underlying value is not being factored into the current price. They just went EBITDA positive and have a sustainable revenue stream going forward so they should start to differentiatie themselves from the dross that has come to typify this sector. Slightest invitation could shift price, I agree....A shake up in the sector could be a good trigger to see the price jump up again or equally a better grasp of the underlying fundamentals reinforced by some more upbeat trading news. It's truly an amazing price for a piece of this company and I think the TA supports a rounding out at the 60-70 pence level which is where we've been in the last week or so. I'm betting on ESY outperforming the sector over the next 6 months and I also think the sector will stage a rebound, maybe slowly but it's also due...if I'm directionally right the ESY well placed to get a double whammy and break back through 100p. Not much further down below the 60p resistance point that we got close to last week and a hell of a lot of headroom for this one to climb.
joehargan1
- 02 Nov 2004 16:45
- 107 of 602
4:28 1,000,000 buy just went through. Proptrade you were serious about topping up then?
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 10:10
- 108 of 602
hey, i don't want to brag....
in all seriousness i have follows this comany since IPO and did manage to sell half of my origional 1000 shares at close to 25.00 which were awarded to me in the ballot. The funny thing is that if i origionally had some size from the issue i would have been out at 3 quid!
I was became seriously involved about a year ago when these slipped to just above 100p and then traded them around over 150 and then got stuck in again in relative size as they have been falling away. I have always been disciplined and stuck to basic rules when trading BUT this stock is a thorn in my side. I truely believe that ESY is massively undervalued and have pursued lines of inquiry through the company itself and brokers to confirm that i wasn't misreading the information.
This is simple - They are sectorially effected and as joehargan rightly said above, they will outperform WHEN the sector bounces.
I have never been one to fart about puffing up stocks for the sake of it. I have worked for 8 years at a top tier investment bank as a proprietary trader and now trade my own capital so i feel that I bring something to the discussion that hopefully will find a wider audience to at least do their own research and if they agree with my conclusions then great, join the party.
rgds
proptrade
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 13:39
- 109 of 602
overhang from Morley is cleared...good news. weakness is a buying opportunity.