rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Shortie,

Apple iPhone and iPads are easy to use. All professionals use them due to its simplicity. That's why RIMM couldn't cope. My experience is much different. It is the quality taht speaks not being tied in or out.

Samsung is much more difficult to use. We have three iPhons and one Samsung Galaxy. We will certainly change that contract to iPhone next time to harmonize everything.

Apple has already won the market. Samsung can catch up, but it will take time.

Samsung is receiving 10% of Apple revenue regardless, so it will benefit from Apple success.

You are possibly right, but you sound as though you are an adult who has debts, outgoings and all the trappings of a tightly controlled household budget. Many Apple users are in their late teens or twenty-somethings who have quite a large disposable income and who think having (and showing that they have) the latest trendy gadget is the ultimate goal. Having a cheaper (possibly more efficient alternative) is not on their radar. In fact, just the opposite. I haven't looked to see which celebrities are currently overtly using their Apple gadgets, but I bet that is also driving the desirability for the products. I have two MA students living here and they both have Apple phones, pads & pods and are constantly looking to upgrade even though their current products are more than adequate. You can tell I am past the teen/twenty-something age!!!

I think you boys need to talk to Seymour Clearly on this forum.

He's the iMan with an iCan. :)

You are correct Harry, wife, mortgage and son all make healthy outgoings, although the mortgage is my only debt. I do take the point of Apple products where disposable income is concerned. And yes Apple is the must have latest trendy product at the moment. I no longer see their products as unique though, and I see within the tablet market that the largest growing sector to be in under 16's. Maybe its the age I'm at and most of my friends have kids, who, like to play with their parents phones and now have or are getting tablets of their own. It remains to be seen if Apple can do as well in these areas of the market as it has in the premium banding.

Both Apple and Samsung have fanboys who'd buy an iTurd/Galaxy Stool and wax lyrical, starting with the boxes. They are extremists, most of us aren't.

My use of Apple goes back to the first iMac, and my pushing of them to years before. I'm getting hacked off:

I'll decide which device I drag and drop/transfer my music to, back to base batteries, soldered memory, price of adapters that should be in the box, misleading re AppleCare, Maps, the 'it's a design feature' BS - it's us holding it the wrong way, scratched on receipt... The Thunderbolt display looks good - and makes some sense if you have an 11 inch MacBook Air, but it isn't GBP 400 better than the Dell; the latter has the same/better panel, doesn't give you the finger re dead pixels, has more of the widely used inputs and a flexible stand - Apple can swivel because it doesn't swivel as sold. It is arrogant and new users may jump after the honeymoon.

Re loyalty; from forums it looks like an increasing number of users who stuck by Apple through hard times are switching to PC - fed up with the lack of a Mac Pro update (a super Mac Mini this month?). Times change but there may come a day when Apple needs those people. Don't win forever.

Cheers,
KidA

FSA eases bank rules to support lending

LONDON | Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:21pm BST

(Reuters) - The Financial Services Authority (FSA) said on Wednesday it has relaxed capital and liquidity rules on banks in an effort to stimulate lending and boost the recession-hit economy, lifting bank shares.

The FSA said the policy shift was set out in the Bank of England's Financial Policy Committee in September, and banks were aware of the changes.

But industry sources and analysts said there were mixed messages coming from regulators on capital rules, including several recent suggestions that more capital was needed.

dow being walloped again, but guru says stay put with stop at 12900

A 400 pt stop from here? Crikey, just short and buy back 400 points lower down.

Hope you are not paying this guy cynic, is he having a laugh? :O)

no i do not pay him, but over the years he has proved surprisingly good ...... it is a chart- based system (GANN) which in turn is linked to %ages ..... too complicated for my small brain

chuckles (and chris) - never forget that markets do not move in straight lines either up or down, though i agree the markets are very uncomfortable at the moment

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looking at harry's chart, i see 12900 is coincidentally(?) the 200 DMA, but i also note that all DMAs remain strongly pointing north

Yes, but I saw on the FT site today that the Eurozone is very likely to drag us down for the next 3-4 days. Of course the trend is up, but if I was a spreadbetter I would be tempted to be short FTSE & DOW up to the w/e. FTSE futures are currently in the red.

cash ftse is curently showing -14 and cash dow down a further 15

I'm not trading it, but interesting to see that in the current rally since July Dow has bounced after dipping close to, through or bang on 50DMA which is where it more or less is currently at. Not getting involved :O)

it's at about 13300 but rising

interesting - following on from chris's comment yesterday ...... today's cash dow trading low was 12971 and now a sharp bounce to 13366

cynic - Just an observation, I am no chartist. Kiss principle, trend is your friend till it isn't, support and resistance, 50 and 200DMA above and below exit and entry points. I haven't got a clue what those crazy yanks are going to do next :O)

you're absolutely right ..... the only thing about charts, is that there are lots of acolytes of same, so they are often self-fulfilling

history has shown that guru is consistently good with his GANN theory charting interpretation and even MRSI regularly predicts well though he seems to use the much more basic bollinger bands at least as a base

Italy's pays more at 3-year bond sale after Spanish cut

MILAN | Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:31am BST

(Reuters) - Italy paid more than last month to sell three-year bonds at auction on Thursday, with investors unnerved by a credit downgrade that pushed Spain to within a notch of a 'junk' rating.

Rome's borrowing costs rose to 2.86 percent from 2.75 percent at a similar sale in September, halting a four-month run of declining yields.

But demand was solid and the yields remained well below a peak of 5.3 percent in June, a month before European Central Bank head Mario Draghi engineered a drop in peripheral sovereign borrowing costs with a pledge to protect the euro.

"Markets are taking Standard and Poor's two-notch downgrade of Spain in their stride and continue to perceive the euro zone's problems as mostly country-specific, thus helping Italy differentiate itself from Spain," said Nicholas Spiro, director at Spiro Sovereign Strategy.