for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

i think it's time to draw a line under all this. everyone has had their say , and no-one can be unaware of the cc. there really isn't anything else that needs saying until the next hearing in january. let' get back to matters in hand, like disposable coffins.

Talking of matters in hand, bos, have been looking at MOI thread?

woof woof!

Money week tips stanelco as a buy refers to the cmpetiveness of greenseal with the rising oil price. every little helps!

paulmasterson1 :

"SEO could buy them now, or more easily then, for what would be peanuts, "

You do come across some real trash on these threads , and this is a typical example of some self proclaimed , informed intelligent guru, presenting his opinion as fact !

Perhaps he would care to expand a little ;
*what is "peanuts" ,
*why does he think SEO would be either a) Interested or B) not interested in buying BPRG .
*How does he think SEO could / would pay for them .
*Why does he consider that the current BPRG price would bear any resemblance to the price that may have to be paid for any bid to be accepted?

Lindos Hi,

Nice one, thanks :)

Cheers,
PM

Hi,

For those wondering where Stanelco will be targetting the Petalpack, take a look at this google search .... 34,000 results :)

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22international+florists%22&meta=

Cheers,
PM

Paul, these "international" shops use local shops for the assembly and delivery of the flower arrangements. It's all copied from Interflora and has nothing to do with shipping flowers accross the Atlantic.

Well at least the few I checked out.

Hi All,

I have just been looking at the Uk Stockmarket Challenge http://www.stockchallenge.co.uk/, where I am back to 5th of 274, with a profit of 67.89%, having been 1st twice already, showing over 100% profit earlier this year, and I remember challenging the 'bashers from bprg' on advfn, to pick their stocks and see if they can beat me, a few brave one's did, and as you can see below, the performance of BPRG v SEO since the competition started on 4th January, is an outright win for SEO, and I am well ahead of all the bprg crowd :))))

I think the positions of the 'bprg' crowd shows that it is not a good idea to listen to them :)))) .... jan-mar is ok though, at least had the sense to pick SEO as well !



68 BPRG BIOPROGRESS paid-68.50 now-31.50 change -54.01% 3.65% 22: admirablecrichton(147th), bp(194th), Calculator(215th), CatMan(244th), cfj(239th), chicken(224th), Imre banana(239th), jan-mar(37th also has SEO), LetWinnersRun(181st), Lord Scrim(207th), manveru(226th), mike hunt-smellie(222nd possibly Melly123 on advfn - a major bprg ramper - LOL !!), On The Rise(197th), paulyb(258th), Pharmadude(218th), renault(153rd), shivametimbers(55th), sirjc(246th and a major bprg ramper - LOL !!), squareroot(268th), ssb6422(260th), tom2468(271st), zetag 92(220th)

437 SEO STANELCO paid-6.00 now-19.00 change +216.67% 8.33% 6: barryrog(20th), CROSSWYRE(43rd), dia43(156th), jan-mar(37th also has bprg), Paulmasterson1(5th), Worrier(9th)


Cheers,
PM

niels, i'm with you on this. frogpack wont be that big an earner for seo , imo. but what petalpack does show is that the basic frogpack design can be adapted for other uses , the more uses seo can find , the better. eventually, they all should be a nice steady income stream for seo, but i don't think the numbers will be massive.

Bosley Hi,

I have always thought that Frogpack would be big enough to pay the comapnies costs/overheads, leaving Greenseal licence revenue as 100% profit ....

Have to wait and see for a couple of years :)

Cheers,
PM

i make the odd comment here now and then.......as i said i am a fan of both RHPS and SEO. there is absolutely NO WAY the share has gone down because of profit taking. my main concern ( even tho not holding at present ) is that RHPS will say enough is enough and get out. after all they have said BUY WEEK AFTER WEEK and the sp hasnt been influenced. my belief is that however many thousand RHPS subs there are they are already in. a bad press will see carnage ( warranted or not ).

superrod, i do agree with your point, it's just i cannot see where bad press is going to come from. the sp is totally news drivenand all current news is in the sp. it's going to take a major new deal , or a large greenseal order to push the sp up further. personally i am quite happy to be steady around this price. even if it's a 18p-22p trading range, it's a much better place to be than this time last year!!!!

bos
Agree, let the sp stay as long as it likes while we and others top up. I have always maintained an sp of 150p with in two years from April of this year. You do not see carnage of other stocks take Centrica, negative news on Friday and the sp goes down 4p. as bos says the sp we have at the moment is all built in.

Everything remains the same - no real orders - around 900 confirmed orders in the price but only 2 confirmed orders received - lots of hype - lots of ramp - lots of spin - but still a loss making company.

Do you notice the spin going to Biotec now - trying to divert people away from the failures of Greenseal - and YES - FAILURES - remember all those reports of license fee's and revenues flooding in in April/May/June 2005 - and what happened ? Its all going to happen a bit later now they say - but look at Biotec - lots of hype and spin potential there to support the price for a few more months.

Superrod I have made this point many times about RHPS - RHPS says profit taking is the cause of the drop and downtrend - well IMO that is total a*se - they have now said BUY for how many weeks and months - around 26 weeks now ? - and its not making any difference - perhaps soon they will get bored and say get out and out quick - RHPS is the only thing thats supported the spin up from 14p and if and when RHPS say thats enough - it could retract to levels of 6p in one day.

All IMO.

bosley......the bad press i was referring to would be a hold/sell rec from rhps

driver.....with respect....centrica is a million miles fom SEO. a better analogy might have been PRTY, a share ive just lost 3k on in a week. clawed back nearly 500 so far.

Hi,

I wouldnt expect RHPS to pull out of SEO, look what happened last time he said sell, quite a few unhappy subscribers when the price shot up. (not me as I held through)
Even so, I dont recall the price dropping when he did say sell.

superrod - much as I eagerly await the first weekend each month and every Thursday's update from Tom Bulford, I do not believe he has that much lasting influence, after an initial buying flurry at ech one of his recommendations. His voice alone may prompt, but it cannot sustain.

I see Northern Foods, maker of ready meals, is reported int he Times today as having won a 30m contract with our favourite s/market, ASDA. Did we ever know the name of the third trial supplier - was it NF? Anyway, "prepared meals" and "ASDA" does suggest something to me- and it's a good sized deal.

sd

superrod
That was just one example where the news is built into the sp I could have chosen many other stocks.

And here is the bad news ??? -

http://www.northern-foods.co.uk/application.asp?app=latest_news.asp&process=full_record&id=1000134

9 September 2005
NORTHERN FOODS WINS MAJOR READY MEALS BUSINESS WITH ASDA
Northern Foods is pleased to confirm that it has been chosen as one of the main suppliers for ASDAs range of ready meals after an 18 month tender process.
The appointment follows ASDAs decision to re-launch its ready meals range this coming autumn with new recipes and new packaging. The business is worth around 30 million*.
Northern Foods will be making over 60 different products across four sites in the UK. Production will be phased in from the 17th of September with full production in place by the end of October 2005. Over 270 new jobs will be created to manage the increased production volume with the potential for more in the future.

Pat ODriscoll, Northern Foods chief executive, said:
This new business with ASDA demonstrates the winning proposition of quality, expertise and scale that Northern Foods is able to deliver. We are delighted with this major new business win and look forward to further strengthening our relationship with ASDA.
Northern Foods already supplies a wide range of products to ASDA including chilled savoury pastry, cakes, puddings, biscuits and frozen pizza.
* Annualised manufacturers selling price

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Now you see reference to the new recipe - you see reference to the new colourful and eye catching packaging designs - but do you see reference to Greenseal ? Do Northern Foods say they need 6 months to change their equipment - no - phased in in 7 days - no conversions happening there then.

My point before was Asda may have used SE0 to get figures - figures they could use against suppliers and get the cheapest price from them - so the TENDER winner is the one who can supply equal to or less than the Greenseal trial figures - so a supplier simply lowering margin for increased volume could win a tender - make money - increase revenue and profits on higher volume of slight discounting - and not have to convert - to make more money Northern Foods will need to utilise existing machinery better - and this will mean putting in place extra labour for shift working.

You do not see Northern Foods saying they will have to spend money to convert machinery - you do not see reference to they will have to purchase new machinery - you only see reference to increased labour to cope with the increased production.

All IMO - but the fact that it was done by TENDER means Asda are only looking for cheapest supplier - and that can simply mean cutting margin for increased volume and NOT spending a fortune on new equipment and conversions on Greenseal which is far from proven in a high production enviroment and was not taken up by Reiser / Oscar Mayer and others during their trials in late 2004.

SE0 would not have missed a spin opportunity - and a little extra discount or a few spare parts free of charge they could have got Northern Foods to say wonderful things in their press release about using SE0 Greenseal - but there is no mention of SE0 - bad news coming ??

All IMO - DYOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!