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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 19 Jun 2018 09:05 - 9088 of 12628

Lol hils , another example of the EU shooting itself in the foot if it were true but do you really think Lufthansa etc rang Barmy Barny to ask permission to make plans ?

Dil - 19 Jun 2018 09:07 - 9089 of 12628

Fred , the EU would no doubt love to ignore us if it were up to Barny but it's not and they can't literally afford to.

Fred1new - 20 Jun 2018 12:35 - 9090 of 12628

Manuel,

Politics again.

Is your Icon Cruella rehearsing for a job as a gravedigger?

She is becoming an embarrassment at PM Questions.

Porkies after porkies on Europe and NHS crumbling on questioning,

Planning for the future.

What future?

She is worse than :



The con artists sitting behind her look like dogs.

Mind you easily accept the lead.


Fred1new - 21 Jun 2018 08:08 - 9091 of 12628

Dil - 21 Jun 2018 19:14 - 9093 of 12628

281 days to go Fred ... cheer up nearly there

Fred1new - 21 Jun 2018 20:41 - 9094 of 12628

Dil,

I am glad to see that T Maybe has sorted out all the problems for you and her party.

Immigration sorted out, customs, security, rules and regulation, free movement simple.

But what I see is a party where the main interest for many is to keep their seats and to hell with the country.

Austerity, you haven't seen anything yet.

Mind Europe and the world know that the can trust the UK to keep their side of any bargain.

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Cerise Noire Girl - 22 Jun 2018 06:48 - 9095 of 12628

Dilbert,

I've been reading loads of stuff about the Article 50 period being extended in lieu of a transition period. You might need to take your shoes and socks off and recount those days.

:o)

iturama - 22 Jun 2018 07:00 - 9096 of 12628

You European lot might need to count using your toes but we Brits learnt long ago that fingers were a more efficient and less smelly method Madame.

Fred1new - 22 Jun 2018 08:23 - 9097 of 12628

It,

One of the problems T May and Cabinet (a cabal) has is counting,

They are hoping their spouted fiction becomes a reality.

But Dil and others like believing in fairy stories.

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Where's that airbus going?

Dil - 22 Jun 2018 08:54 - 9098 of 12628

Fred you worry too much , song for you we sing at Cardiff is Three Little Birdies ... go listen.

Hils , yours is The Final Countdown by the aptly named Europe.

While I'll be singing Happy Days Are Here Again.


:-)

Fred1new - 22 Jun 2018 09:38 - 9099 of 12628

Dil,

When you are singing, which institution will you be incarcerated in?

Dil - 22 Jun 2018 10:06 - 9100 of 12628

Here we go Fred , just for you ... please don't worry :-)

Cardiff City fans send a message to Remoaners

Fred1new - 22 Jun 2018 11:44 - 9101 of 12628

Anybody know the betting odds on T May and the looney party being out of office within next 2 and half years.

I wonder if I can foresee a vote of No Confidence and a general election taking the place of another referendum within that period.

Cardiff city.

Wrong shaped balls.

Fred1new - 22 Jun 2018 12:53 - 9102 of 12628

What is striking me at the moment about the market and economic instability is the number of share buybacks, lack of new investment (unless the companies are facing "bankruptcy") downward projections of earnings.


(? money moving abroad ?)

All suggesting businesses are retrenching or bunkering down for the expected downturn in the economy.

Good to see Hammond is pouring money into the NHS, although he doesn't know where it is coming from.

Mind the health service will be needed.

If the plans and goals are so good for the UK future, why can't we see them and then evaluate them?

Rather than you will never have had it so good when we go it alone into the wilderness.

cynic - 22 Jun 2018 13:34 - 9103 of 12628

not all sweetness and light in the eurozone either .....

Franco-German eurozone reform plan faces growing opposition

France and Germany face a growing backlash from other governments against their plans for a common eurozone budget, dealing a blow to the two countries’ ambitions for a big overhaul of the single currency area.
The Netherlands, Austria and Finland are among 12 governments questioning the need for any joint eurozone “fiscal capacity”, challenging a central tenet of French President Emmanuel Macron’s vision for the eurozone that he has successfully pressed Berlin to endorse.

Fred1new - 22 Jun 2018 14:40 - 9104 of 12628

I think De Gaulle when he said "Non" in 1963 was right!

It would have saved the rest of Europe an awful lot of hassle.

He recognised that the Little Englanders were outsiders and didn't really belong in Europe and couldn't realised that they had lost their Empire and hadn't accepted it.

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But looking back, I thought the rapidity of increase in the number of states was going to be a problem and thought it may have been more sensible to allow admission at a slower rate to give time for the change of rules and bedding down of new "partners".

But what is done is done.

If the EU is to succeed there is bound to be more integration of many institutions into central bodies with "local" representation.


But whether the time to do so is now with the "World instability" is questionable.

But, it would be reasonable to question what is beneficial to the society as a "whole" rather than the details of one's own personal pockets financially.




Dil - 22 Jun 2018 23:43 - 9105 of 12628

World instability ??

Geez it's as stable now as it's ever been since the Second World War. It's never going to be perfect but name a five year period when it was head and shoulders better ?

Is your glass always half empty Fred ?

Dil - 22 Jun 2018 23:50 - 9106 of 12628

And I think de Gaulie was a cheeky fecker black balling us after what we had done for him and his country.

Little England is nothing compared to Little France.

Cerise Noire Girl - 23 Jun 2018 07:38 - 9107 of 12628

Waddya doing today, Dilbert?

Personally, I'll be on a Little French noody doody beach all day.

:o)

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