bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Chiva20
- 09 Feb 2005 12:49
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Adie, Jimmy, are you going to build on this if there is some profit taking? What would you asses as the best time to jump in?
Bones
- 09 Feb 2005 12:50
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Protected trade is a large order that is bought in portions. It's existence is protected until completed. Often the price makes it appear a sell in a fast rising market but unlikely to be a sell as that would be easy to place in a buying frenzy.
EWRobson
- 09 Feb 2005 12:54
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shao (re post 901 - huge volume of posts and bought NLR CFDs with SEO margin while writing this)
Don't know the history but it was probably to do with the market for new optical cable collapsing which is why SEO moved towards other opportunities. That's towards the end of the life of a product whereas here we are at the beginning. The big plus for SEO is that they been there, done that, got the T-shirt, learnt the realities of the market and know now just how to handle it. Risks low. With the volume of new buying which is likely to continue as people and institutions (they're people too - lol!) want to get their share of the action. With the Evolution upgrade to 20p, I have a feeling that it won't stop until the price gets there. The only way the MMs can hold back the buying rush is by raising the price. At the moment they are just not getting the volume of sellers in that they need to balance the books. This has confirmed what we thought last Friday that the MMs were building up a stock but they would not have obtained nearly enough.
Di: OK, I'll let you have 50%! My figure is approaching that with the increase in value, even though I keep reinvesting the margin (from CFDs) elsewhere: today has been NLR (again) and YOO. I would give the blue index chap a heart attack if I bought more SEOs! Great to see you girls to the fore - Ellen McArthur is absolutely inspiring; not that I'm going to buy a boat, just build an extension called Stanelco! - well they will have paid forit just as B&Q paid for Ellen's boat!
Eric
bhunt1910
- 09 Feb 2005 12:54
- 920 of 27111
Thank you Bones
AdieH
- 09 Feb 2005 13:01
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chiva i am looking for 20p, selling half and then hold the others, potential for 50p but depends on contract details, court case with BPRG etc. I would have thought there would be profit taking but that doesn't seem to be happening, this share seems to be a one off regarding price. DYOR.
jimmy b
- 09 Feb 2005 13:01
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Chiva20 i bought as big a stake as i could this morning. Im hanging in for quite a while yet..
EWRobson
- 09 Feb 2005 13:13
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Agree 20p first destination. Whether it stops there depends on whether there are contract announcements in meantime: if not, may be a consolidation phase. Mind, I wouldn't put it past our old friend Tim freeborn at Evolution (I assume its him) to beat us to the draw with another upward hike in his forecast. Then we have the prelims on 28th which should hopefully put a bit of quantification on the forward numbers. May take 25% of profits at 20p - on the other hand, I may not! lol! In merry old mood today, but aren't we all! ROFL!
TheFrenchConnection
- 09 Feb 2005 13:25
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Mes Amities / Slt . My erstwhile employers, Pershing, were hot as mustard on SEO when it found heavy chartist support at 4.25p.The interest and heat was turned on following the RNS announcement reg. the Reisner trials; and believe me , ensuing interest was raised from mustard hot to that of the status of red chilli when Asda announced trials . . Now in the light of furthur trials with the likes of Asda and ultimately hopefully its global parent -WAL MART having now proven successful, Pershing , must by now have accumulated quite a sizeable holding . Basically i am an energy anaylist and buy nothing BUT oil ,gas and all manner of alternative energy players; but even the merits of SEO were not lost on me .And that was why i was more than happy to pile in myself . l did actually somewhat ramp this stock to the skies on another board as Aldwick can testify when it stood @ 4.75 . ,,,,,,l currently hold 700,000 ,,,,and am keeping the entire holding .And why ? The merits of this share speak volumes , and talking of volumes juste look at them and more importantly the heartyinsatiable appetite mms hold for them . ln my opinion it would be utter folly to let them go now ..But in saying that i usually play the percentages and conceed there is nothing wrong with banking profits .....a'bientot .... , bonne chance @+ ,,,J
Jacks
- 09 Feb 2005 13:26
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Adie, please stop worrying about the court case and think ahead. 50p is more than realistic. I am trying to free up some more cash to buy more.
AdieH
- 09 Feb 2005 13:49
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I am not worrying just being level headed... Have to agree with Eric were all on abit of a high, anyone who got in below 4p - 6p - 8p is having a wonderful time at moment...
Chiva20
- 09 Feb 2005 13:55
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Thanks for the reassurance, bought in on the little profit taking :o)
EWRobson
- 09 Feb 2005 14:14
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Some have level heads; theFrenchConnection has a beret; I have a bulging forehead, which I claim are brains trying to force their way out. There is room for all sort of heads with SEO - so many reasons for buying and so many warnings re getting out too early!
Di: I like your extension on an extension. Its like CFDs on SEO - profits on profits. Now, you could say that I should be putting them back into SEO but even I have not the nerve, the what shall we call it, 'le sangfroid', l'insouciance, to do that. So I just buy more NLR, SEO and YOO. Blast: just realise that is diluting the level of my SEO holding! Just got Building Regulations approval this morning and it is all systems go now - my wife won't do it herself, although she is the great DIY one in the family!
Eric
regandjess1
- 09 Feb 2005 14:25
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I think 50p per share is wishful thinking,with 850mill shares issued that would give a mkt cap of 400 mill plus.Till we know roughly how many machines sold and at what price they are likely to be, dont think its a good idea to get too carried away.
EWRobson
- 09 Feb 2005 14:29
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Jess
We do have forecasts. Evoluition agree company forecast of 200 machines this year and 1000 in each of the current year. We do know the cost of a one-off machine which is 40K plus 30K per annum royalties. I did a calculation above which showed that 50p is reasonable in 2007 and would probably be met earlier once the projections were confirmed. The only lesson from that is to BUY, ACCUMULATE and then HOLD.
Eric
regandjess1
- 09 Feb 2005 14:33
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EWR.....yes agree with all that but there will surely be quite a differnce on the machine price for bulk orders, also unless the food packaging industry are forced to have them( through legislation on hygiene), I dont think they will buy them if they are too expensive.
AdieH
- 09 Feb 2005 14:37
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Its a case of having to have them because they are cheaper than current ways of packaging, pay for themselves within year according to analysis. The other companies will not want to be left behind...
regandjess1
- 09 Feb 2005 14:42
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I agree 50p would be lovely and as a new holder would like to see it,some of you sound as tho' you have been with these a long time so i'll go with your estimates.If it does we'll all be laughing.