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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 08:18 - 9193 of 21973

I do believe the DOW is likely to be a bit down in the dumps until the election is over. But if there's encouraging data out of China then there's money to be made elsewhere to offset any horrid positions on the DOW

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 08:37 - 9194 of 21973

Hmm - rather short-lived optimism on the FTSE this morning - and I'd closed my short yesterday thinking it surely must stop falling! Gone long this morning from 5800... not sure what'll happen next...

Shortie - 24 Oct 2012 09:08 - 9195 of 21973

Someone loves me, AAPL didn't close yesterday at stop loss of 635 which is pretty amazing. 615 it is then..

cynic - 24 Oct 2012 09:11 - 9196 of 21973

well done m8y

Shortie - 24 Oct 2012 09:26 - 9197 of 21973

Cynic, I must say at this moment it doesn't much feel like my doing, early night last night so expected to rise this morning and see the position closed. Another 20 pips so can't complain. My eyes are now turning towards the Euro, with this weekends elections in Spain I'm expecting some weakness as the vote could tip a bailout request.

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 10:13 - 9198 of 21973

Gone back to shorting the FTSE - at least for now

ahoj - 24 Oct 2012 10:44 - 9199 of 21973

you were long at 5800 this am. did you close it?

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 10:48 - 9200 of 21973

Hi Ahoj - yes I did, and decided to go short again. It's not looking promising to me, after all :( I think the focus is on all the dreary earnings forecasts at present - and the better data (though not fantastic) from China is being sidelined by more negative news I reckon

ahoj - 24 Oct 2012 11:20 - 9201 of 21973

I always loose when I am confused, resulting in overtrading. You went long in the morning at the top, now short at the bottom! Good luck

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 11:39 - 9202 of 21973

Hi Ahoj, my long was first thing this morning, so made a tiny profit as it hadn't moved very high. Now... well, clearly should have left it running.

Shortie - 24 Oct 2012 11:44 - 9203 of 21973

FTSE100 is still bull trending, add to that the likely-hood Spain will request a banking bailout early next week causing Sterling to strengthen over the Euro.

Also Merkel on leaving last weeks summit stated the new ESM fund will not pick up the tab to pay for past problems should through any bailout up in the air and add to Euro weakness.

cynic - 24 Oct 2012 11:46 - 9204 of 21973

i think you're right about euro weakness ..... i'm delighted that i pay for our villa in the summer in that currency! ...... however, i understand currencies even less than shares so am not comfortable trading them

Shortie - 24 Oct 2012 11:54 - 9205 of 21973

Well if I'm right next week should see a FTSE100 top followed by a fall back the week after, as Euro concerns start to weigh. Just a theory, I'll short the Euro but will stay away from the FTSE for now until a trend has been established.

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 11:54 - 9206 of 21973

According to Markus Huber, the head of German HNW Trading at ETX Capital:

"Overall short-term sentiment remains negative, further losses today would be considered especially damaging as many indices are near the lower band of the most recent trading range, if these major supports are being broken more losses in the next few days are likely with a change in the overall positive trend possible."

Shortie - 24 Oct 2012 12:01 - 9207 of 21973

So your Markus Huber agrees then that we're likely to see a change in trend. Once the change in trend has been identified then maybe hop on the band wagon and go short. Alot sits with the weekend, could go either way and all eyes are on Spain for the elections.

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 12:07 - 9208 of 21973

Yes, I agree Shortie. I'm not going to do anything very much for now, having made a nice lot earlier in the week.

Shortie - 24 Oct 2012 12:15 - 9209 of 21973

FTSE100 resistance @ 5915, any ideas for first support?

skinny - 24 Oct 2012 12:37 - 9210 of 21973

October PMIs suggest euro zone downturn deepening

LONDON | Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:55am BST

(Reuters) - Euro zone businesses in October suffered their worst month since the bloc emerged from its last recession more than three years ago, forcing them to cut more jobs to reduce costs, surveys showed on Wednesday.

The downturn that began in smaller periphery countries is now gripping Germany and France, dragging the euro zone as a whole deeper into the quagmire.

Markit's Composite Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI), which polls around 5,000 businesses across the 17-nation bloc and is viewed as a reliable growth indicator, fell to 45.8 this month from a September reading of 46.1.

It is the lowest reading since June 2009 and confounded consensus expectations in a Reuters poll for a rise to 46.4. The index has now been below the 50 mark that separates growth from contraction since February.

"It's very disappointing, it's a depressing scenario as things are getting worse," said Chris Williamson, chief economist at data collator Markit.

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 12:47 - 9211 of 21973

Shortie: in answer to your Q: probably around where we are now. Which is why I believe that if it breaks convincingly below it (5800), we'll be seeing a downturn - I may be wrong of course...

Toya - 24 Oct 2012 12:51 - 9212 of 21973

The focus for the DOW this afternoon will be on 'earnings from Boeing Co. and new-home-sales data'. If they're good, then perhpas Cynic will have a better day today?
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