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index day traders on dow/ftse/cac40/dax - including spreadbetters     

zarif - 09 Sep 2003 23:27

anyone out there palying the indexes and using spreadbetting
can we concentrate on:
djia
ftse100
cac40
dax

lets see what entry and exit signals we can come up with using
gann
rsi
to see if we can predict profitable trades and concentrate on stop losses etc
love to hear from you all
zarif

zarif - 01 Oct 2003 16:24 - 92 of 126

Hi everybody,
Just closed the long from yesterday and taken out some shorts. I think shall fulfill both before the day is out as we had quite a down slide yesterday. Also this is the end of the 3rd qtr and beginning of the 4th qtr so be careful with your trades and watch the stoplosses etc. Generally if Sept was a good month then Oct seems to be a downer especialy in the opening weeks. So my personal scheme is Shorts will be the main operatives.
rgds
to all

well done jules I am sure u shall be giving us advise soon.
Ps the link on the live chart by megabucks is the best that i have come across so far.

rgds
zarif

jules99 - 01 Oct 2003 17:02 - 93 of 126

Zarif...Hi...been a hell of a day...

Been a good day today, closed 10conrts of my ftse long contracts which I mis calculated yesterday...at 4158...kept 5 pounds long from 4158...

DOW longs closed and gone short at 4359 at $10-P ($10 a point), have a feeling it may close around 4330 or drop back there or finish at 4380...any thoughts?

Still learning though...

where have you gone short from?

Jules99.

zarif - 01 Oct 2003 17:41 - 94 of 126

I Just closed a Long at 9360 - a 100pt gain at 15/pt. I have tagen a short from 9363 DEC DOW and now going to wait. I usually find that in the frequency of trades make more money in shorting than on longs. You are quite right what goes up must come down - unless it flies and sometimes the market does give us a kick in our egos.


jules remember bank as much money as you can and dont get greedy if you are happy with what you have in front of you take it and stay in cash as at the end of the day CASH IS KING.

best of luck in trading.
rgds
zarif


Jules I am mainly a SB man -can you give me an insight and a crash resume in cfds.
eg: How much money do you need to open ann account etc???

jules99 - 01 Oct 2003 18:38 - 95 of 126

ZARIF,

Just started on CFD a week ago, been doing a lot reserach into them..go to htpp://www.cmcplc.com/cfd/index.asp

for an insight... allows you to trade on margin...very high risk if you do not know how to money manage...or understand derivatives

My a/c is small, but is more than enough for my purposes...

As I write I think Dow just going Sideways at 9395-9405...Boring...!!!

Open positions now are DAX- long from 9325 - that was a mistake yesterday...Wont be trading DAX again...weird one...thankfully came up today,,,

FTSE long 5 pound-P from 4159...+10...will close out a/m...

DOW 2 shorts in place now...9359 - 9383 which I dont see a major problem...

Ta.
Jules99




zarif - 01 Oct 2003 22:23 - 96 of 126

Jules:
Re:CMC
If you are getting shoddy service then My opinion is dont wait amonth give them a kick in the Bullocks and get another company that can perform -it is stressful enough watching the trades instead of having to worry about if these idiots have got it right in the first place

rgds
zarif

zarif - 02 Oct 2003 15:35 - 97 of 126

Are y0ou long or short today???
I have got 1 long open and 2 shorts cghasing each other? I think it is going to take a nose dive today - Atleast i hope for mysake -Xstal Ball What thou sees today????

rgds
zarif

zarif - 02 Oct 2003 18:53 - 98 of 126

How are we all doing today?? Any things to watch out for round the corner?? any skeletons in the cupboard?? WWhat are the key levels we should watch today??

rgds
zarif

snoball - 02 Oct 2003 21:48 - 99 of 126

I think there are probably some, in and out of the cupboard, zarif.
i'll tell you what i heard if you tell me what you heard. :-)

zarif - 02 Oct 2003 23:01 - 100 of 126

Hello Snoball:

I Closed the Long off at 9476 ( gain 80pts @10/pt) and the 2 shorts one opening at 9439 and 9460 close both at 9400 -- 99 pt @ 10/pt: So i think the skeletons in the cupboard can rattle. But I have agut feeling that tomorrow it will take a nose dive with the jobless figures coming out???
What do u reckon and what do u want to tell me besides to get lost

rgds
zarif

zarif - 02 Oct 2003 23:39 - 101 of 126

Jules99: Snoball: Megabucks et al:

Just read below what i came across while trawling the net.Be careful of deal4free:


Deal4Free just took 800 out of my account and won't answer the phone?!!
Hey everyone

I can't believe what happened earlier on. My account with Deal4free has dropped from 800-odd quid down to 6.81, and I didn't even have a bet open!!!

What is going on here?! Anyone else had this problem?

I phone Deal4free and they said it was a 'software problem' (after having tried about four times and having them hang up on me). Naturally I was worried that they had gone bust and were shifting the money over to Tel Aviv or something...Apparently not...But I still haven't got the money back in my account yet.

They've admitted that the amount I specified should be in there, but the action hasn't been completed yet. Dodgy or what? I didn't go furious with them, but that is highly irregular. I'm surprised nobody else has posted about this today...


__________________
bmansfield

jules99 - 03 Oct 2003 00:29 - 102 of 126

just got in...got frusyrated with pc...running too slow...cant find temp file...

Buying apple Mac, windows getting boot.. next month......huff..huff..huff....


I'm glad dow finished positive...morning FTSE stocks will power ahead, allowing me take a higher profits...ARM and COLT, reuters should again fly tmorr early.

regs to index's

FTSE -Long from 4158 and 4196 -
Pleased to see it finish 4209 - 4235/40 is goal.

DOW - short from 9465 -I agree dow will dive at some point on profit take
back to 9350 at least intraday before second attempt to rise....

DAX- long from 3330 -was mistake- small potatoes at stake but u learn...such a boring index to follow...






zarif - 03 Oct 2003 13:05 - 103 of 126

Afternoon everybody:
My prediction from the crystal ball is that Dow is going to inch up and than (hopefully) with the jobless figures and farmers figures come in should take a nose dive -around 9230 would be a great weekend
rgds
zarif

snoball - 03 Oct 2003 13:55 - 104 of 126

Nice work on those shorts yesterday zarif.
I have absolutely no idea what the Dow will do today.

Maybe it will drop on Monday, so I heard.

zarif - 03 Oct 2003 14:01 - 105 of 126

My god did you see the dow spike up about 60-80pts at 13.30gmt _ guys be very careful today as that can eat us up in one swoop. I am down 3000 at present.
13.59hrs currently up 132 pts around 9622:

arif

snoball - 03 Oct 2003 14:11 - 106 of 126

wot, no stop, zarif?
You've been banjaxed by the Dow. I hate it when that happens.
The FTSE rocketed as well.

jules99 - 03 Oct 2003 16:22 - 107 of 126

Zarif u'll be fine...I mean come on its up 195+18+ 133= BUSH couldn't add up, otherwise he'd be with CMC...thats 346...will be next week though..I think..

Jules99.

zarif - 03 Oct 2003 17:30 - 108 of 126

Jules
I am alright as I had not put stop losses on and was just watching the screen when it spiked up.I had 2 shorts opening at 9439 10/pt and 9415 at 5/pt.
I had a long at 2/pt opening at 9430: Any way After that i opened 2 more shorters from the 9600 and 9590 and am waiting:
As we say what goes up must come down -unless it can fly
Re: dax - I think u are right its lousy: try the cac40 or the Mib??

rgds
zarif

zarif - 03 Oct 2003 18:53 - 109 of 126

Hows trick today any updates etc???
rgds
zarif

jules99 - 03 Oct 2003 19:27 - 110 of 126

Have got an hr left here, as I hve a train to catch...back sunday, going leeds to visit...

Update tonite chaps...short from 9651...madness right now...195 +18 +190 at one stage I thnk....madness...

Its lost the plot...catch it while u can...

I would probably take the long good run..and cash is king...

cash in bank...I closed a great FTse tday..

No more shorts now unless it hits 9800 next week...which I doubt...think it will close lower around 9610...

snowball email u when im bck on sunday..just a mad week, this week..

Jules99.




zarif - 03 Oct 2003 21:23 - 111 of 126

"Happy to meet- Sorry to Part -Happy to meet again on Monday "


Goodnight & God Bless to all
rgds
zarif
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