GEOFFREY.R
- 01 Nov 2003 16:46
I bought shares in this company at 4.5p in September 2003. I see they are rising. Can anyone tell me please the growth potential for this company as they have just been awarded several new contracts ?
SueHelen
- 04 Dec 2003 18:31
- 926 of 1924
Hi all,
I was at university today and that was the only reason for my absence today. I feel there is not much for me to add now as I have provided everything in the public domain and it seems that my efforts have not been worthwhile for most of you. I have provided as much as information as I could and I have tried my very hardest to keep everybody informed but sometimes patience is needed. However, I would hope that others can provide with some better research in the future as well I have been branded everything for not judging the fall back. I am not a full-time trader so I can't keep up to date with the prices on certain days.
I am disappointed and heartbroken to see all this written about me. I suppose all I can do is let the next person research information for everyone and spend hours researching everything.
I am a holder and will stay a holder as nothing has changed for me and will only even think about selling at circa 50 pence.
I hope you do show the appreciation once my research becomes a reality when all the good news comes out.
I hope I could be more useful in the future.
Have a very good evening all.
Best of luck.
Sue.
game_boy
- 04 Dec 2003 18:34
- 927 of 1924
And for the benefit of SueHelen...a post I made on another BB today...to answer similar criticism...it may seem harsh to the more novice investors...but please do heed its advice !!
After reading some of the posts today which seem to be criticising myself and others who have tried over the past few weeks to understand the potential of CWV as a business...as well as understand the short term trading activity driven by the Shares magazine tip....news on funding...mm behaviour...etc etc.... I feel like there should be a standard piece of text automatically added by advfn's famous text editor....to every post that anyone places on this BB and all others...that says something like....
DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ ON THESE BB'S.....DON'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS BASED ON THEM...DON'T THANK OR BLAME ANYONE ELSE IF A SHARE YOU BOUGHT WENT UP OR DOWN AFTER YOU BOUGHT IT....BECAUSE NOBODY ON THIS BB MADE YOU PRESS THE BUY OR SELL BUTTON...YOU DID IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BRAIN OF YOUR OWN....IF YOU DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT IN YOUR ABILITY TO MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS WITH YOUR OWN MONEY....DON'T TRADE SHARES COS ITS A RISKY BUSINESS... ALL OF US CAN LOSE MONEY AS FAST AS WE CAN MAKE IT...IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING !!
game_boy
- 04 Dec 2003 18:35
- 928 of 1924
and one more....then that's enough for me today !!
the same applies to making money....its funny how people expect to follow a crowd in the hope they know what they're doing....crowd behaviour is very different from being a trader....for all you guys know I could have sold my whole position at 18p and be waiting to buy it back at 10p..or 8p..or 6p..or whatever...
I might...for all you know be in full support of all those who come on here to try to talk it down....for all I know they might be right....make your own minds up guys...don't blame words typed on a BB....I might be a computer programmed just to throw some apparently sensible words together all day across BB's !!!
For goodness sake everyone who reads these boards.....don't make serious decisions about money you can't afford to lose based on a hope that someone else on here a) knows what they are talking about and b) is telling the truth...
And for all those who have sold or have doubts today because of what others have said on here...I hope you come back and give them a good kicking when the price goes back up again...
snowballroller
- 04 Dec 2003 18:37
- 929 of 1924
Why i get a EDIT every time i sent a post? Did i pressed the wrong button?
In my investing system,once i`m in a stock,(`cos after DMOR),as it's price gains 20 or 30%,i just
released my original capital, and let the profit(20%or30% worth of Eqts.)runs,
If my entry point is good enough,i can finish the job in a shorter time frame,
otherwise i may wait longer, 8p ,10p? who care! Good market analysis doesn`t
mean/guarantee you make right decision every time!!!
thestatusquo
- 04 Dec 2003 19:50
- 930 of 1924
Game boy you have my respect. A thoroughly well reasoned post! That's all i've been bangin' on about. Debate, not ramping etc.
Suehelen, your provision of information for everyone has been first class. My criticism of your posts were that you presented your information in a such a way that you set unrealistic price targets without realistic profit forecasts.
Please dont go away Sue. Gameboy, Momentum and others have now started the debate. A real debate. So lets get involved for the longer term and help each other spot buy and SELL signals for this stock.
"Happy to watch" can you get me tickets to a MM Christmas party! Your posts made me laugh on what has been a shi**y day.
ajren
- 04 Dec 2003 19:52
- 931 of 1924
Hi SueHelen,
I,and I am sure all of us,do not want you .....to feel heartbroken : your words.
I have constantly criticised you for only one thing i.e.HYPE.
You have put in countless hours analysing,etc and generally done an exceptionally good job.
HYPE :- If you feel the price will go up to 50 p before Christmas that is o.k.
But why tell everyone else and effectively invite them to throw stones at
you?
Why HYPE?What do you gain by repeatedly saying it will go up to 50p?Why did
you simply not do a great job and let the price determine itself ?You could
have given all your info and let the readers decide for themselves what they
want to do.
Sharetrading has the capacity to bankrupt people.New traders can look starry
eyed at 50 p and Buy immediately at 15 p.How much will they have lost if they
feel they have to sell at e.g.10p ?
Best wishes,aj
thestatusquo
- 04 Dec 2003 20:22
- 932 of 1924
Any agreement on an earnings target for May04?
Cigarette packet calcs:-
?200,000-300,000 profits. P/e of 40 perhaps. Market cap ?10-12million. Equating to price target of 16-20p?
Perhaps pushing towards 20p at results if forthcoming fundraising results in sales increase in run in to May04.
momentum
- 04 Dec 2003 20:32
- 933 of 1924
On balance volume has been falling during the recent decline. Indicating a lot of the buyers on the way up have not been selling. Very positive for a rebound back to the recent highs. My bible 5 indicators are all showing slightly over sold conditions. Next week should be more positive.
Stephen
thestatusquo
- 04 Dec 2003 20:33
- 934 of 1924
On a near term note, anybody any thoughts on placing price if price continues to drift lower.
Uncertainty seems to breed uncertainty?
momentum
- 04 Dec 2003 20:37
- 935 of 1924
If profits are due to grow at 200% plus for the next 3-4 years then we could trade on a forward pe of 100, in 2006 we could have a market cap of 150 - 200 Million.
game_boy
- 04 Dec 2003 20:39
- 936 of 1924
thestatusquo & ajren.....only replying together for speed...but the points need to be made....
1. Market cap comparisons and justifications can be made in a number of ways...we all know that...there is no precise science for it...no matter what any of us have learned in business/finance schools..the market decides market cap...and the market is a fickle tool
2. SueHelen's view of 50p....is her own view...which she is entitled to without critiscism or having to justify it...the market will decide that...in the same way it has decided the mkt cap of YOO, ZOO, NPG and all those others at 20-30m I listed previously as comparisons to CWV at a mkt cap of today some 5m..
3.thestatusquo...go run your analysis on all of my list previously put up here and tell me what mkt cap your analysis says !!! Then think again on your estimates for CWV ??
thestatusquo
- 04 Dec 2003 20:44
- 937 of 1924
stay cool gameboy! sniping not good!
tried to civilise this chat. Dont throw it back in my face!
game_boy
- 04 Dec 2003 20:51
- 938 of 1924
thestatusquo.....I'm the ice man...believe me !!
But you were trying to justify price/mkt cap in a way that I choose to question....politely I assure you...don't be so sensitive...I normally live in a more aggressive world so my tone can perhaps be misunderstood...for that I apologise as I am a gentleman....
ntk98
- 04 Dec 2003 22:16
- 939 of 1924
What will happen if a TDI news contract arrive soon or in January? Most companies try to close sale\contract before the tax year end, or finalcial quater end, for bonus etc.
Could it be something to look forward too? No ramp of course
littlejon
- 04 Dec 2003 22:40
- 940 of 1924
Michael Jackson, Cliff Richard & Chubby Brown off to see santa in lapland with a load of school kids, The plane starts to nose dive with engine trouble.
Cliff shouts we must save the kids, Chubby Brown shouts, fcuk the kids, and Jackson says have we the time.
SueHelen
- 05 Dec 2003 08:54
- 941 of 1924
Price 11-12.5 pence, up 14.6% today.
Best Wishes,
Sue.
SueHelen
- 05 Dec 2003 08:57
- 942 of 1924
Price 12-12.5 pence now, up 19.5%.
Sue.
SueHelen
- 05 Dec 2003 08:58
- 943 of 1924
Institutions must be buying in again this morning. Not much stock around for retail investors unless you decide to pay a premium.
Sue.
SueHelen
- 05 Dec 2003 08:59
- 944 of 1924
Buy order filled at 12.5 pence takes the offer price to 13 pence.
Price 12-13 pence now, up 21.9%. MMs correction, will correct the price again I feel by early next week.
Regards,
Sue.
SueHelen
- 05 Dec 2003 09:00
- 945 of 1924
Price 12.5-13 pence now, more buy orders need filling at 13 pence, should see 13.5 pence on the offer soon.
Sue.