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Dubious sell-off     

ellio - 15 May 2006 09:10

The market seems to be selling-off on the back of limited bad news imo, apart from the dollar that is.

If you can hold your nerve and apart from any short term requirements to offload poor performing stocks, I have a couple!!, my advice would be sit tight. This does not have the feel of the tech(mining!) bubble at all. Difference being there are a lot of good fundamentals, unlike in 2000 when there were a lot of over rated nothing companies.

cynic - 16 Aug 2007 17:23 - 930 of 1564

with luck, there will also be some bungee elastic to provide at least a short respite, and short enough so it comes into effect before you/we smack into the ground

jimmy b - 16 Aug 2007 17:28 - 931 of 1564

I'm not in anything at the moment ,trying to trade the FTSE ,DOW ,Currencies etc with mixed results..

cynic - 16 Aug 2007 17:31 - 932 of 1564

i had a good run with both FTSE and Dow trades, but cocked up last night by being greedy and thinking recovery would continue while i abandoned the screen for 1/2 hour for dinner ....... for about 10 days or so, i seemed to get into the rhythm or whatever, of calling correctly ....... never got too greedy nor left positions open overnight, so netted a few bob .... reckoned there would be a rally from the open on Dow, but fortunately did not put money there - phew!

e t - 16 Aug 2007 17:44 - 933 of 1564


Re my predictions for the week (post845) - SPOT ON !!!!


.......now's the time to get out that trusty old financial rod and go do a bit of fishing - time to reel in a fish or two.

jimmy b - 16 Aug 2007 17:44 - 934 of 1564

There -300 pts !!! DOW down.

Strawbs - 16 Aug 2007 17:58 - 935 of 1564

Dollar/Yen now 112! I think this started as a credit crunch and is rapidly turning into a fast carry trade unwind.

In my opinion.....

Strawbs.

sned - 16 Aug 2007 18:01 - 936 of 1564

news piece on 6 o'clock BBC news

SECRUOSER - 16 Aug 2007 18:06 - 937 of 1564

The title of this thread says it all: DUBIOUS sell-off.

Extremely dubious.

cynic - 16 Aug 2007 18:39 - 938 of 1564

of course .... why didi we not realise ..... it's all a figment of the imagination!
meanwhile Dow battles back girlishly to only -200 after -300

Big Al - 16 Aug 2007 18:44 - 939 of 1564

Nothing dubious at all about it. The whole market, as with many asset classes, has been over-inflated by cheap money that could be parcelled up into debt packages that attracted a good rating by the rating agencies. They were wrong and it all has to unwind.

How much was everything marked up on the expectation of an M&A from private equity, the funds for which have rapidly dried up this past couple of months?

How much leverage were hedge funds using to trade asset classes higher?

Everything is selling off indiscriminately becasue it's time for these profligate outfits to start paying something back. Unfortunately it would seem greed got the better of them. It'll come to UK housing within 18 months too, IMO.

cynic - 16 Aug 2007 19:01 - 940 of 1564

indiscriminately is the key word .... there's all sorts of trash that has been trashed, including for sure some of my own holdings, but the discount on ICI (for example) against the t/o price is ludicrous

cynic - 16 Aug 2007 19:08 - 941 of 1564

Dow now down ONLY 135, so my bet (no money to change hands!) is that Dow finishes blue this evening

maddoctor - 16 Aug 2007 19:09 - 942 of 1564

nice turn of phrase - "this bull could soon look like a hamburger"

Strawbs - 16 Aug 2007 20:07 - 943 of 1564

Black and blue maybe Cynic. :-)

Looks like it's come back a long way from the -300 of earlier though. Guess the final hour will be key again.

Strawbs.

jimmy b - 16 Aug 2007 20:58 - 944 of 1564

Should have put your money on it cynic ,good call.

maddoctor - 16 Aug 2007 21:02 - 945 of 1564

one hell of a squeeze

hlyeo98 - 16 Aug 2007 21:10 - 946 of 1564

Wow! what a comeback. This is better than a Rambo movie

cynic - 16 Aug 2007 21:13 - 947 of 1564

far too dodgy and am out of rhythm so too likely to make wrong call ...... u may remember that early in the day i said Dow would rally from the off ..... BIG error and had i put money on it, for sure would not haver had the balls to sit tight

BigTed - 16 Aug 2007 21:14 - 948 of 1564

actually predictable, i thought...
still say our economy is in good shape, in general, inflation more like it, interest rates to go down next imo, people still going on holiday and buying new cars, company profits looking up, low un-employment, strong demand and low supply of houses, (although i believe a correction is due in autumn, in house market) but i think to wipe 40b off of UK top co's in a day is a tad overdone...

maddoctor - 16 Aug 2007 21:28 - 949 of 1564

trading curbs stopped the rot.
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