edited by moneyam

Explosive asked, "now very simply what has SueHelen twisted or misrepresented on this thread?" I can't be bothered dredging through this one, but take a look at SueHelen's ELH thread - and one tiny example. I'm fairly sure it's not down to semantics, or my simple understanding of chronology:

Haystack - 04 Aug 2004 12:09 - 66 of 114
ELH is still falling fast. It is hitting new all time lows day after day. The rate of fall has even increased.

SueHelen - 04 Aug 2004 12:31 - 67 of 114
Good call Haystack but I am going onto hang onto mine as I feel the company will get back on track in the future. My indication now is that these are a long term hold.

SueHelen - 08 Nov 2004 18:10 - 75 of 114
Hi Xmortal, I don't hold these anymore after taking a loss by selling out at 4.00 pence levels back in July.

I am neutral on these for the moment, there is a very large overhang here at the moment so until that clears the price will stay like this. The overhang was created by Fidelity selling around 79 million shares at 1.00 pence about six weeks ago. Hence, the real prices are about 1.75 to sell and around 1.77 to buy.

I am keenly following the developments though.

So Sue , was it 500% , 600% or 700% you made ?

What a total bullsh*tter.

SueHelen - think it may be time to switch to one of your other IDs. This one's reputation is in tatters.

Wonder if we'll spot you? We'll be looking out for a lying, bullshitting, ramping piece of scum. With multiple aliases.

SueHelen - think it may be time to switch to one of your other IDs. This one's reputation is in tatters.

Wonder if we'll spot you? We'll be looking out for a lying, bullshitting, ramping piece of scum. With multiple aliases.
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lololol!!!!!!!!!! splendid stuff.

i must be really thick. Dec 23 2003 (when SH started the thread) Whog 2.5p today 0.28p, will someone please tell me where i am going wrong. where has this 700% rise come from???? for about 2 days it rose to 6.75p then quickly fell all way back and under. If backers of SH and SH him/herself wants some of us too take him/her seriously you need to post some common sense. If the charts on MoneyAM are wrong then of course i apologize.

4M buy just came through!!!!!

Hi Sue,
$mill BUY,
Tick up soon?
Keep well!!!!

a 23800 investment, plus tax, and its just lost 5800 because of the spread! now worth 18000

it wasn't a 4M - it was 4 million shares, which is an awful lot less!

IT STILL is a BUY!!!!!!!

Looks like a rollover. 2x2,000,000 with 0.01p/share difference for the MM.

MJR, what does that mean? In plain English!

MJR, I get what you mean... now that looks interstin that 4mn buys at such a high price I might dip in! Any views on sp performance?

Of course it's a rollover.

Someones holding a 2m share position, either short or long on a T+, and has chosen to lengthen the period they hold for, either because the share price hasnt reached their target, or they can't afford to take a loss on closing the position.

SueHelen - you said you had more than 2m - are they bought and paid for, or is your pump and dump turning sour .......?

jameel - the price is irrelevant. When you rollover a t+ trade you agree with your broker how much margin they'll take - in this case 0.01p x 2m. (200)

You can execute the trade at any price between bid and offer, makes no difference - essentially, you're closing an old position and opening a new position. You do this by buying the shares on one side that you're selling to yourself on the other.

Sophisticated pump & dump merchants sometimes use this technique without rolling over to manipulate the charts by artificially generating volume and to confuse and encourage novice/sucker investors.

Don't be the idiot that falls for it.

Gasuie, thankx for your advice

Gausie, thanks. You learn something new every day.

Should trades like that not be marked to distinguish them from an ordinary trade?

Should trades like that not be marked to distinguish them from an ordinary trade?

Talk like that and SueHelen will throw a wobbly !!

Hi Capetown,

T-9 trading days (approx) until update from asset sale in South Africa

Seen the 2 * 2 million trades.....definite a rollover. Though its good to know that someone is holding 2 million shares at a price of 0.60 pence - must be confident.

It should be remembered that the MMs were charging 0.75 pence last week....a premium of 0.25 pence on the offer price of 0.50 pence for anyone looking to buy 500,000 shares. MMs can manipulate online prices as they know we look at them and they do read these threads.

So don't just observe your obversation on the online limits....the online buy limit may be 250,000 shares at 0.60 pence at the moment...but only one person may able to get that many at the 0.60 pence price....then the offer could jump to 0.70 pence with the online buy restricted to something like 50K.

I'm very happy with my top up of 362,000 shares at 0.60 pence on Tuesday. Nice holding of 2.40 million shares and I'm more than certain once the news starts coming through the MMs will pay me 2 pence or more for my holding.