This board has been a little to quiet for while.

Is it time that Bush and Blair who is a close friend and confidant of Bush were tried for War Crimes?

Do you think the use by the American Administrations of renditions are War Crimes and committed with full knowledge of American and British leaders ie. Blair and Bush and they are ultimately responsible?

Also in the aftermath of the illegal invasion of Iraq are should their action seen to be as the provocation for the rising toll of British, American and Iraqi deaths.

As a result of the military intervention in Iraq do you think you are safer in Britain to-day?

Do you think one should expect government leaders and ministers who have been responsible for massive foreseeable casualties should visit the hospitals to meet the casualties they have produced directly or indirectly by their actions?

3254, I sugest you re-read my previous submission and the think about its content, rather than respond with knee jerk type reactions, which you seem to wish and the present administration of America and Britain seem to enact.

Sorry for the delay in my reply Kivver, but i needed to check some facts and needed to get the information from Iraq. This is so it has not been tampered with by any press or politician.
The following are figs in % of active insurgents for the basra area. The percentages are of activists currently involved or have been killed or injured.

Baath party - 16%
Mehdi Army Militia - 8%
Al Zarqawi Network - 23%
Ansar Al-Islam - 14%
Al Qaeda - 7%

All the above operate from outside the country including the Baath. They do have individuals living locally. These tend to be arrested and therefore the tendancy is not to live locally but to travel.

Mujajedin-e-Khalq - 8%
PKK - 8%
Ashbal Saddam - 4% ( tend to be children apparently they are easier to brainwash)
Fedayeen Saddam - 5.5%
Hizbollah - 4.5%
Others 2%

Although I cannot name my source or his regiment I can reveal that he works in the military itelligence services and these are as close to being accurate as he could.

So do Americans and British.

the problem this giv'nt has and the previous and no doubt the next is that they are intent on running the NHS, police,education, etc as a BUSINESS.
This is because the majority of their 'advisors' etc are from the private sector. also they see the private sector and think ooooh they seem to work efficiently. what they fail to grasp is that the NHS, POLICE etc are not out to make a profit or show a return of some kind. They provide a service and don't offer savings/dividends to shareholders for cutting corners/taking risks . setting targets for nhs/police/education is therefore self fulfilling prophecy, that the 'business' community use as ammunition to show how much more efficient the private sector is.
Get a kidney transplant at the 'Mcdonalds' sponsored hospital, the removed item is then pan fried in a balsamic red wine sauce and served to you on a bed of chicory leaves. Hoews that for service and cost saving.

And a sight tastier than the cardboard they usually serve.

The problem with having private involvement in services such as the health service is that any money saved by efficiency is not ploughed back into raising the standards of the service itself but into the company's pocket and out of the service. The "efficiency" often ends with pressures on other areas which do not have their financing increased.
Also the "efficiency saving" does not lead to improvement of care or other standards necessary for such services to be long term benefit for the users of those services.

But the main problem with the NHS at the moment is the constant "beneficial changes" and leading to demoralising of and subsequent apathy of staff.

It is like a headless chicken managed by headless politicians and managements.


I do hope people will be satisfied with taking their children 50 miles to the nearest Aand E department after an accident or serious rapid onset illness.

By the way how did we ramble onto the NHS from the original topic. Unless we think it is time the Bs are incarcerated in one of the Psychiatric Units.

No room. Too full of people who think either 911 was a put up job, or we could have left Iraq alone and it would all have got better on its own.

Popular mechanics 9/11 shill slated on prime time radio show

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_911.html

H6, How do you know? Were you just visiting or receiving treatment?

Researching why people think that way.

your all a figment of my imagination.

Fred,

He was visting his imaginary friend.

tweenie, can you please imagine a suitable cliff and fall for a few people.

Awww. Isn't he cute.
Its lovely to have your own personal stalker. imagine being so devoted to someone that you have nothing else on your mind all day long other than to follow him around, hanging on his every word, and making yourself look silly for his amusement, with no regard at all to everyone laughing.
If he didn't do it, I'd probably have to employ someone to do it, its just so chic to have a stalker. all the celebs have them.
Thanks, Aldwickk.

be glad it is'nt the other way round....you'd be locked up for grooming.
;-)

Aint enough grooming equipment in the whole world!!!

Who's Really
Killing Iraqis?

The Real 2006
'Iraq Body Count'

Iraqi civilians killed this year by Islamic Terrorists
8,895

Iraqi civilians killed collaterally by Americans
60*

Is this what they mean by 'Muslim tolerance'?
By PETER HITCHENS, The Mail on Sunday

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More polls Listen to this: "Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate."

Or then again, this: "Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends."

Then there is the instruction to fight against those who are not of the true faith "until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued".

All are direct quotations from the Koran, which Muslims believe to be the absolute word of Allah, and which cannot be altered.

If you seek even more ferocious attacks on Christianity and Judaism, you will find them in the Hadith, Islam's other great book of scripture.

Week after week in those lands where Muslims rule and Christians are a minority, the message pours out from the mosques: "God did not have a son."

All the central doctrines of the Christian faith are emphatically denied. Things are said about Jews and Christians, sometimes comparing them to pigs and monkeys, which would attract the attention of the Thought Police if they were uttered here.

Only recently an Afghan was threatened with death - the prescribed punishment under Sharia law - for converting from Islam to Christianity.

Christians in Pakistan live in constant fear of attacks on their churches and their homes, usually following false allegations that someone has burned a Koran.

Coptic Christians in Egypt suffer a similar misery. Christian Arabs who can afford to have been emigrating by the thousands to avoid increasing persecution by their Muslim neighbours.

Hypocritical fury

For years Liberals in the West have spread the myth of "Muslim tolerance". It does not exist and never did. Where Islam rules, other faiths must cringe in humiliated subjection.

These are facts. Is it not astonishing that this militant, angry religion, whose name means not "Peace", but "Submission", whose whole existence is based on the denial and rejection of its rivals, dares to get into a self-righteous rage over an obscure quotation in a dull academic lecture by the head of the Roman Catholic Church?

In Islam it is still the year 1427. They have had no reformation. The more Islamic a state is, the more its women are shrouded and confined, the more its minorities are despised - and the more freedom of thought and speech are crushed.

And yet the deputy leader of Turkey's Islamist ruling party, Salih Kapusuz, attacks the Pope for having "a dark mentality that comes from the darkness of the Middle Ages".

If we bow to this manufactured, hypocritical fury, then we will already have lost one of the most important battles to face us.

While our silly leaders bleat and panic about terror threats, a far greater menace to our free societies comes from the growing power of Islam in our midst.

Much of that power results from the weak-kneed refusal of our own liberal elite to stand up for what is good about our Christian civilisation. Back the Pope.

bawoni- turn the other cheek.
Or get a gun and go do gods work, embrace the end times.
The only thing that makes me cringe, is all you religious freaks, blameing each other. Please for the love of god.. STFU.
LOL