Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Tesco are going to be taking the plastic film off their cucumbers.

How very dare they?

Exec,

It is quite simple to do.

I do it regularly.

Maybe of interest to those who haven't already watched this production.

Didn't like a lot of Blair's actions, but think this "lecture" was sensible.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b90gs0/briefings-tony-blair#

Dil
How long to go now?
M

Tony 'I wanna be a cowboy' Blair isn't in jail?

imo, boris was worse than inappropriate in his choice of words

that the wearing of the burka is (i am sure) one of social convention rather than an instruction in the koran, is irrelevant

to deride women who choose to go thus attired is downright offensive and bullying, just as it would be to mock hasidic jews in their long black coats, black felt hats and ringlets

Both look ridiculous to me and I'm sure I look ridiculous to others. That you can dislike something but accept it doesn't compute with an increasing number of people; they believe tolerance is them accepting the things they like.

Cheers,
KidA

Agreed. And quite often, Boris looks ridiculous himself.

eg.

If that is the measure of ridiculous, then most of us are guilty. He looks dishevelled but not ridiculous. I'd rather a man like that than a preening peacock.
As for that crowd protesting that what he said was racism, they need to get a life. My personal experience with muslims has been almost totally positive but I believe the burkah should be banned. It has no place on the streets of the UK.

as i wrote yesterday ....

imo, boris was worse than inappropriate in his choice of words

that the wearing of the burka is (i am sure) one of social convention rather than an instruction in the koran, is irrelevant

to deride women who choose to go thus attired is downright offensive and bullying, just as it would be to mock hasidic jews in their long black coats, black felt hats and ringlets

Hardly social convention, a totally antisocial garment. What hasidic jews have to do with it I don't know but their style of dress is convention rather a bible instruction. To my mind, the whole lot need to lighten up, throw off the shackles and smell the roses.

you really are unbelievably bigoted

hijab etc is at heart social convention and why antisocial except in very limited circumstances?
as with the hasidim, what business is it of yours what people choose to wear?

smell the roses!!

I would commend a recent purchase of mine from Edward Green, the Northampton shoe manufacturer:

'The Style Guide'

A book with pictures and notes, written by Simon Crompton

(look in 'Accessories' on their web site's shopping section)

It doesn't mention the burka at all as it is sexist and is written for men. I suppose we can live in hope for future editions......

People wearing hoodies and motorcycle helmets are in many cases told to remove them on entering shops etc, why not those wearing a Niqab or Burka?

Dont change the topic to suit your argument, Cynic. I was referring to the burkah, as well you know. Anyone wearing one should be given an asbo. The hijab was never mentioned except by you. As for the hasidic jews, they can wear whatever attire that makes them happy. Now get off your high horse.

An element of the letter box? Yes. Resemble bank robber headgear? Yes. Do Gareth Bale and Martin Keown have more of an ape look? Yes. If hair looks like a golliwog's, it looks like a golliwog's. The peacocks at Pitti Uomo are only to receive praise? FO.

Star Wars rewritten for our age:

Obi-Wan Kenobi: Only a master of evil, Darth.

Darth Vader: What?

Obi-Wan Kenobi: Only a master of evil.

Darth Vader: You can't say that! Fascist.

Vader storms off and takes to Twitter:

Darth Vader (Twitter): OMG! Unbelievable! Kenobi just called me a master of evil. #EndHateSpeech #EndFascism

burka or hijab or tefillin what's the difference except in detail and affiliation?

by all means one can dislike all or any of the above, or hoodies or motorcycle helmets
however, boris was just downright and intentionally offensive and bullying, and that is not acceptable at all

Manuel.

I thought you were guilty of having a similar trait to Boris.

Once again, I must be mistaken.

(;->

Some people are easily offended. How do they make it out the door? Let's pander to them.

you will note that i did not say anything about racism

the fact of the matter is that boris's words were intentionally highly offensive and bullying ..... and that is the issue

it would have deserved a similar response had boris used such offensive words and tone of men who wear make-up in public or are heavily tattooed or ride motorcycles or of women in that last instance

freedom of speech also carries innate responsibilities