Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Either that, Haystack, or the 'Great Unwashed' either can't afford or can't be bothered to buy a newspaper each day when they can read it for free online.

:o)

The media stats include online readership. So lefties not reading left media online either.

For Dil.

The time has come to teach the political class a lesson: I'm back fighting for a real Brexit

By

Nigel Farage


17 August 2018 • 10:00pm





It is now beyond doubt that the political class in Westminster and many of their media allies do not accept the EU referendum result. They refuse to acknowledge the wishes of the majority of those who took part in that historic plebiscite of 2016 by voting to leave the European Union. As far as I’m concerned, this is the worst case of Stockholm syndrome ever recorded.

It is equally clear to me that, unless challenged, these anti-democrats will succeed in frustrating the result. Whatever they may claim publicly, this is their ultimate objective. They think nothing of betraying the citizens of Britain.

For months now we have heard the same argument from this bunch: “Leave voters did not know what...



More if you sign up: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/17/time-has-come-teach-political-class-lessonim-back-fighting-real/

Go Nigel go Nigel ....

Danish PM warned yesterday that the chances of us getting a deal are now only 50%. Oh well that's his bacon exports fecked.

Amusing how many warnings we get from nobodies.
Even more amusing, if that is the right word, is the fuss about the alleged overspend by the leave campaign while ignoring the £9M spent by Cameron on his fear campaign and the millions now being spent on overturning the result.
This and that wasn't on the ballot paper, they like to say, forgetting that the ballot paper was preceded by 16 pages of small print explaining, in the Remainders view, exactly what we were voting for. Get on with it May.

Is it Dil, It, or Mark pushing the wheelbarrow?

O dear, unbiased opinion from the Guardian. Give it up Fred, retire with grace. There is no bad Brexit. Just Brexit. We have heard all the "bad" before. Now it is just boring.

"Grace"!

You mean the future that some Brexiter's want.

Hobbling around the World cap in hand hoping for help outs.

Wondering why Little England has become a banana republic and has become a tourist cheap holiday resort.

But it is good to see the Spiv is back leading the UKIP and Far Right once again.

A leaf out of Corby's book...lol



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/19/brexit-tory-mps-warn-of-entryism-threat-from-leave-eu-supporters

Hobbling around Europe living on hand outs seems to be how you have managed much of your life Fred. By your own admission. Your cardboard box on the bridge in Paris has been taken over long past. While you were a hobo, the rest of us were working.

It.

I have had to scratch a living where ever I could.

Be careful I might have scratched over you.

Strange though I have quite enjoyed it and don't seem as embittered as you appear to be.

OK Fred. Have a good one. The rest of us have things to do.

221 days to go Fred.

Tick tock.

Dil.

You seem to be wishing for a clockwork orange.

It may suit you.

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Prospect of a new UK party grows as Brexit shifts ground at Westminster



Political cracks are widening in both main parties but Brexit deadline means timing counts



Heather Stewart Political editor

Mon 20 Aug 2018 06.00 BST



The Greens’ Caroline Lucas, the Lib Dems’ Layla Moran, Labour’s Chuka Umunna and the Tory Anna Soubry at a People’s Vote event. Photograph: Ben Stansall/AFP/Getty Images


Britain’s political landscape has already been reshaped irrevocably by the Brexit vote. But there is a growing feeling at Westminster that the deep divisions over whether, and how, Britain should break from the EU, cannot be contained within the existing party system.




Within Labour in particular, turmoil from the party’s handling of antisemitism has also tested the loyalty of MPs, some of whom were already sceptical of Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, and want to see him take a more strident anti-Brexit position.

When Len McCluskey, the general secretary of Labour’s biggest union backer, Unite, unleashed a strongly worded attack against Chuka Umunna last week, he was reflecting concern that Corbyn’s leadership could be destabilised by even a relatively small number of high-profile defections.

One senior party figure suggested Corbyn’s core team, hardened by the “chicken coup” that followed the EU referendum in 2016, were eliding several separate but related threats. The fear that the leadership was under attack again was leading to conflation, the source said.




More: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/20/prospect-new-uk-party-grows-westminster-political-cracks-brexit

Storms in teacups come to mind.

Not sure you're right there, Fred.

There is hardly a Brexiteer left in the Cabinet and that is definitely not proper.

And so to some extent, the same thing is happening with the Tories as the Brexiteers split off and away from the Remainers.

those of a certain vintage will remember the SDP and more recently UKIP
both caused waves at the time, but neither was able to sustain public appeal for long