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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


EWRobson - 15 Sep 2005 14:38 - 9405 of 27111

Kingkonggb: thank goodness we can switch back to the purpose of the thread. Timing is only easy to judge with 20/20 hindsight. Looking forward to the middle of next year, it is a reasonable assumption that the ASDA deal will have delivered the goods with say 300 Greenseal deliveries. The other reasonable assumption is that there will have been positive progress with the US market and that Starpol will be delivering really good profits, plus contributions from other products. The key factor for the sp, I suggest, remains the movement in the US market If you took a Low Medium High (L, M, H) scenario then L would be progress to emulate the ASDA deal, without either exclusivity or Wal-Mart. M would include Wal-Mart alongside other business. H would be Wal-Mart exclusivity with a worldwide deal in which they have placed Greenseal as a key part of their strategy; a variant might be a non-exclusive deal but giving an aggressive roll-out. Without going into any calculations, then the sp for the three cases could well be of the order of: L 20p, M 50p, H 150p. Thus the outcome is dependent very heavily on negotiations that are no doubt currently taking place. The wise servent/tenant is he who actually tucks his shares away rather than trading them! We relatively unwise who tend to trade via cfd's could be caught with our holdings reduced and unable to act quickly enough on good news. Sorry, chaps, I've not given answers but hope I have helped to define the problem!

Eric

driver - 15 Sep 2005 14:49 - 9406 of 27111

Heres an interesting twist to the story from another board.

As I thought, SEO is the Claimant and BPRG the Defendant! This means it is SEO that are defending their patents and BPRG who are trying to 'steal' them. So it could well be a case of how much BPRG have to pay SEO. Now that would be an interesting scenario what with BPRG being in such a mess; How the hell are they going to be able to pay?

Appeals Verdict 16th or 17th Jan. 06

1 appeal submitted by Bio (the Defendant) and 2 from SEO (the Claimant)

A3/2005/0819 Stanelco RF Technologies Ltd v Bioprogress Technology Ltd. Appeal of Defendant from order of Mr Christopher Floyd QC (sitting as a Deputy High Court Judge), dated 2 November 2004, filed 15 April 2005.

A3/2005/0823 Stanelco RF Technologies Ltd v Bioprogress Technology Ltd. Appeal of Claimant from order of Mr Christopher Floyd QC (sitting as a Deputy High Court Judge), dated 2 November 2004, filed 15 April 2005.

A3/2005/0824 Stanelco RF Technologies Ltd v Bioprogress Technology Ltd. Appeal of Claimant from order of Mr Christopher Floyd QC (sitting as a Deputy High Court Judge), dated 9 December 2004, filed 15 April 2005.

bosley - 15 Sep 2005 15:03 - 9407 of 27111

shamona, i really do not understand what your problem is and this whole "debate " is tedious. there is absolutely nothing new being said. i repeat,timewill tell who is right or wrong,so leave it at that and let's see where we all are in a year's time.

Bugz - 15 Sep 2005 15:05 - 9408 of 27111

Surely SEO would be the claiment though driver as they are the ones appealing the original decision no?

driver - 15 Sep 2005 15:24 - 9409 of 27111

Bugz
Its all swings and rounder bouts to me?

Bugz - 15 Sep 2005 15:40 - 9410 of 27111

DELETED!!! :)

roma - 15 Sep 2005 15:52 - 9411 of 27111

You've started something now, I have no doubt that shamona will junp on this as an excuse to repeat himself another hundred times. I was hoping we had got rid of him. Instead of a SEO thread its becoming a shamona repeat show.

Bugz - 15 Sep 2005 16:00 - 9412 of 27111

Right- I'm gonna edit it now!!!!!! Cant deal with a repeat! :)

driver - 15 Sep 2005 16:01 - 9413 of 27111

roma
Theres no need to discuss the cc till at least Jan 2006, imo.

willfagg - 15 Sep 2005 16:22 - 9414 of 27111

Has anyone considered how many capsules are sold in the world? if this technology is patented and Stanelco grab a large portion of the market, why would PM be so far out? In fact it was the new capsule technology for the Pharmaceutical industry that first got me excited about SEO. The potential from this could be greater than the packaging/sealing products. It could be mega.Certainly if you are looking for something that has the potential to make you rich SEO would have to be on your list, but then if it was that easy we would all be having this discussion from the Bahamas now

bosley - 15 Sep 2005 16:30 - 9415 of 27111

i already am wilf!!!!

driver - 15 Sep 2005 16:44 - 9416 of 27111

willfagg
I think its about 566545741051045191711987187178181819819818B capsules are sold in the world I may be a few out.

bhunt1910 - 15 Sep 2005 16:47 - 9417 of 27111

Driver - thanks for the email

Baza

bhunt1910 - 15 Sep 2005 17:01 - 9419 of 27111

Looks like a couple of big buys went threw toward the close - least ways I think they were buys judging by the time and price. - does that bode well for tomorrow - I hope so 'cos this is murdering my CFD's?

Baza

paulmasterson1 - 15 Sep 2005 17:11 - 9420 of 27111


willfagg Hi,

Thanks, and I think you are almost right there :)

Capsules alone could make this company a FTSE-100 company, but Greenseal has the same potential, and so does Biotec, possibly more according to KBC, so we now have a company with at least THREE opportunities to get into the FTSE-100, and they all might well pay off :)

My figures for 20 a share have been posted a few times before, and are based on Greenseal alone. Add Capsules, Starpol 2000, Biotec's other products, Frogpack, Petalpack, Cradlewrap, Air-Pillows, Starch sachets, Solutape and Labels, and you can easily see that 20 a share may seem a long way from 19p a share, but it's quite possible, and IMVHO it's going to happen within 3-5 years.

The 29090 near the end is a buy from me, I sold something else with a good profit this afternoon, and at the moment SEO is cheap as chips, so I topped up, as I did last week.

Over the next month, I am likely to sell other shares that are in profit, and all the cash is going into Stanelco, until my portfolio is 100% Stanelco again.

Cheers,
PM


willfagg - 15 Sep 2005 16:22 - 9414 of 9418
Has anyone considered how many capsules are sold in the world? if this technology is patented and Stanelco grab a large portion of the market, why would PM be so far out? In fact it was the new capsule technology for the Pharmaceutical industry that first got me excited about SEO. The potential from this could be greater than the packaging/sealing products. It could be mega.Certainly if you are looking for something that has the potential to make you rich SEO would have to be on your list, but then if it was that easy we would all be having this discussion from the Bahamas now

bhunt1910 - 15 Sep 2005 17:36 - 9421 of 27111

Come on guys - we are starting to believe our own hype - lets get this share back to 20p first before we start talking about 20.

It may well get to 20 eventually - but I think there is a lot of work to be done first - and of course we may be the only horse in town at the moment - but you can bet your life that there will be a whole posse looking at alternatives.

I will still be happy with a sustained 30p by Xmas.

Baza

explosive - 15 Sep 2005 17:48 - 9422 of 27111

PM - 3 -5 years 20 a share. Sure I like a bet, what odds would like? And how did you arrive at this share price anyway? Whats the basis for this calculation? This kinda grown over the time scale you've said would well surely be in the same regions as Microsoft or better.

Sharmona - Have to agree with bosley above this is all getting boring now. If PM has got calculations to back up his calculation then lets have it. Surely if hes right with his sums we can sell the evidence and all cash in that much sooner!!

Eric - Good post, agree 100%

bhunt1910 - 15 Sep 2005 17:52 - 9423 of 27111

Now for some light releif

A blonde pushes her BMW into a gas station. She tells the mechanic it died.
After he works on it for a few minutes, it is idling smoothly. She
says, "What's the story?"
He replies, "Just crap in the carburetor"
She asks, "How often do I have to do that?"

Sorry

Baza

bhunt1910 - 15 Sep 2005 17:53 - 9424 of 27111

........more

Two blondes living in Oklahoma were sitting on a bench
talking........
and one blonde says to the other, "Which do you think is farther
away..........Florida or the moon?"
The other blonde turns and says "Helloooooooooo, can you see
Florida...?????"

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