Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Already read it.

Looks similar to what the fate of the UK might be under the stewardship of the tories and neo-fascists.

Already read it.

Actually, what was projected at the time of the bail-outs and the fleeing if tax-avoiders from Greece, as is happening in the UK.

Looks similar to what the fate of the UK might be under the stewardship of the tories and neo-fascists.

A few years after Brexit those in N I might face the same situation as Brazil has to, just to safeguard the border from the South. With the Euro going into freefall they might be rushing northwards to try free themselves from their masters in Brussels/Germany.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-45338769

I see the French fishermen are doing their best to persuade us to stay in the EU Fred.

They all be out of a job soon anyway when they can't fish our waters.

You haven't factored in the May effect Dil.

It is more likely that you won't have fish and chips.

Your envoy in Africa.

I think Fred is lord Haw-Haw.....

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https://www.westmonster.com/dyson-walk-away-from-eu-theyve-offered-nothing-1/


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This is what the EU needs to be told as Britian stands up for itself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2hR-rOukbU

Victory for Brussels is inevitable. In adopting Chequers, we have gone into battle waving the white flag

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Boris Johnson

2 September 2018 • 10:00pm




'The UK has agreed to hand over £40bn for two thirds of diddly squat', writes Boris Johnson Credit: Dario Pignatelli/ Bloomberg




So it’s ding ding! Seconds out! And we begin the final round of that international slug fest, the Brexit negotiations. Out of their corners come Dominic Raab and Michel Barnier, shrugging their shoulders and beating their chests – and I just hope you aren’t one of those trusting souls who still thinks it could really go either way. The fix is in. The whole thing is about as pre-ordained as a bout between Giant Haystacks and Big Daddy; and in this case, I am afraid, the inevitable outcome is a victory for the EU, with the UK lying flat on the canvas with 12 stars circling symbolically over our semi-conscious head.



More if you sign up here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/09/02/victory-brussels-inevitable-adopting-chequers-have-gone-battle/

A bunch of "inadequates" in fancy dress!

The beauty is that TM`s attempt to navigate the Channel will leave her floudering and result in the Public getting the result they voted for and want - Out means Out!

She should stick to dancing. She's good at that.

Hmmm? Maybe not.

Most of you on here will know I'm a 'big time' JRM fan.

I like the clarity of his communication which is always backed up with strong facts.

Here's a clip which is very interesting to listen to and well worthwhile watching as JRM clarifies the actual position on things as he answers listener's questions about the Chequer's Brexit Meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb-IJngnLsM

https://www.politico.eu/article/jacob-rees-mogg-the-beano-walter-brown-the-softy-warned-to-stop-impersonating-cartoon-character/

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Jacob Rees-Mogg warned to stop impersonating cartoon character
‘A swift response on the matter would be greatly appreciated to avoid getting Teacher involved,’ say makers of The Beano.

By PAUL DALLISON

The makers of a British comic sent a cease-and-desist letter to leading Tory Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg, asking him to stop impersonating one of their long-running characters.

The Beano, based in Dundee, Scotland, accused Rees-Mogg of “masquerading” as Walter Brown, better known as Walter the Softy, the next-door neighbor of the comic’s most famous character, Dennis the Menace.

It says this is “a clear breach of our copyright” and lists attributes that Rees-Mogg shares with Brown, including his hairstyle, glasses, “bullish behaviour” and “snootiness.”

The letter says: “It has been brought to our attention that you have been infringing the intellectual property rights of one of our cartoon characters and masquerading as Walter Brown.

“We firmly request that you cease and desist in your ongoing impersonation of the character, which remains the exclusive property of Beano Studios.


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I think I prefer Billy Bunter to this.

Inside the tory tent.

Outside the tent, is that the next con party leader?

Boris Johnson's former aide RIDICULES May's Chequers proposal with this BRILLIANT point

BREXITEER Conor Burns trashed Prime Minister Theresa May’s Chequers proposal and said it is not what 17.4million British people voted for when they chose to leave the European Union.

By CHARLOTTE DAVIS, Telegraph
PUBLISHED: 10:12, Tue, Sep 4, 2018 | UPDATED: 10:12, Tue, Sep 4, 2018

Mr Burns, a former parliamentary aide to Boris Johnson who stood down in protest against the Chequers deal, insisted the Brexit proposal is a “very very bad deal for Britain”.

Speaking on BBC’s Newsnight, Mr Burns says: “The view of many of us is that Chequers proposals are actually in many ways worse than staying in.

“They would leave the United Kingdom in full regulatory alignment on goods with the European Union. We would be obliged indefinitely to follow the court judgement of the European Court. It is just not compatible with what we campaigned for and what people voted for, which was taking back control. Taking back control of our laws, our borders, our money, and crucially – the ability to have our own bilateral international trade agreements. Chequers is a very very bad deal for Britain.”

Theresa May's Brexit plan, calling for close regulatory alignment with the EU’s single market for British exports, is a firm push towards a soft Brexit.

The proposal includes plans to create a ”common rule book” – involving a free trade area with the EU on industrial and agricultural goods.

Both Remainers and Brexiteers have ridiculed Mrs May’s Chequers proposal, with Remainer Tory MP Justin Greening claiming it is hated more than poll tax.

Prominent Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg travelled with the House of Commons’ Brexit Committee to Brussels for a private meeting on Monday with the EU’s Chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier.

Speaking in Brussels following the meeting, Mr Rees-Mogg ripped into the Chequers proposal and said politicians in both the UK and EU think it is “absolute rubbish”.

Mr Rees-Mogg said: “Mr Barnier was, as you would expect, was extraordinarily charming and well informed. He and I found that we were in a considerable degree of agreement that Chequers is absolute rubbish and that we should chuck it and what we should have is a Canada-style free trade deal. He seemed to think that was the way forward and has published charts showing that. So, interestingly eurosceptics and Michel Barnier are in a greater agreement than eurosceptics and the Government or Michel Barnier and the Government, it was very encouraging.”

The Prime Minister defended her Chequers plan this weekend claiming that she would not accept any compromises to her blueprint “that are not in our national interest”.

She'll never get that deal through parliament let alone get the EU to agree to it.

The EU want and need a deal and our money just as much if not more than we would like a deal so it's time to ditch May and her half hearted attempts and let a real Brexiteer negotiate our exit.

206 days to go.