Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

You haven't factored in the May effect Dil.

It is more likely that you won't have fish and chips.

Your envoy in Africa.

I think Fred is lord Haw-Haw.....

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https://www.westmonster.com/dyson-walk-away-from-eu-theyve-offered-nothing-1/


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This is what the EU needs to be told as Britian stands up for itself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2hR-rOukbU

Victory for Brussels is inevitable. In adopting Chequers, we have gone into battle waving the white flag

By

Boris Johnson

2 September 2018 • 10:00pm




'The UK has agreed to hand over £40bn for two thirds of diddly squat', writes Boris Johnson Credit: Dario Pignatelli/ Bloomberg




So it’s ding ding! Seconds out! And we begin the final round of that international slug fest, the Brexit negotiations. Out of their corners come Dominic Raab and Michel Barnier, shrugging their shoulders and beating their chests – and I just hope you aren’t one of those trusting souls who still thinks it could really go either way. The fix is in. The whole thing is about as pre-ordained as a bout between Giant Haystacks and Big Daddy; and in this case, I am afraid, the inevitable outcome is a victory for the EU, with the UK lying flat on the canvas with 12 stars circling symbolically over our semi-conscious head.



More if you sign up here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/09/02/victory-brussels-inevitable-adopting-chequers-have-gone-battle/

A bunch of "inadequates" in fancy dress!

The beauty is that TM`s attempt to navigate the Channel will leave her floudering and result in the Public getting the result they voted for and want - Out means Out!

She should stick to dancing. She's good at that.

Hmmm? Maybe not.

Most of you on here will know I'm a 'big time' JRM fan.

I like the clarity of his communication which is always backed up with strong facts.

Here's a clip which is very interesting to listen to and well worthwhile watching as JRM clarifies the actual position on things as he answers listener's questions about the Chequer's Brexit Meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb-IJngnLsM

https://www.politico.eu/article/jacob-rees-mogg-the-beano-walter-brown-the-softy-warned-to-stop-impersonating-cartoon-character/

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Jacob Rees-Mogg warned to stop impersonating cartoon character
‘A swift response on the matter would be greatly appreciated to avoid getting Teacher involved,’ say makers of The Beano.

By PAUL DALLISON

The makers of a British comic sent a cease-and-desist letter to leading Tory Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg, asking him to stop impersonating one of their long-running characters.

The Beano, based in Dundee, Scotland, accused Rees-Mogg of “masquerading” as Walter Brown, better known as Walter the Softy, the next-door neighbor of the comic’s most famous character, Dennis the Menace.

It says this is “a clear breach of our copyright” and lists attributes that Rees-Mogg shares with Brown, including his hairstyle, glasses, “bullish behaviour” and “snootiness.”

The letter says: “It has been brought to our attention that you have been infringing the intellectual property rights of one of our cartoon characters and masquerading as Walter Brown.

“We firmly request that you cease and desist in your ongoing impersonation of the character, which remains the exclusive property of Beano Studios.


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I think I prefer Billy Bunter to this.

Inside the tory tent.

Outside the tent, is that the next con party leader?

Boris Johnson's former aide RIDICULES May's Chequers proposal with this BRILLIANT point

BREXITEER Conor Burns trashed Prime Minister Theresa May’s Chequers proposal and said it is not what 17.4million British people voted for when they chose to leave the European Union.

By CHARLOTTE DAVIS, Telegraph
PUBLISHED: 10:12, Tue, Sep 4, 2018 | UPDATED: 10:12, Tue, Sep 4, 2018

Mr Burns, a former parliamentary aide to Boris Johnson who stood down in protest against the Chequers deal, insisted the Brexit proposal is a “very very bad deal for Britain”.

Speaking on BBC’s Newsnight, Mr Burns says: “The view of many of us is that Chequers proposals are actually in many ways worse than staying in.

“They would leave the United Kingdom in full regulatory alignment on goods with the European Union. We would be obliged indefinitely to follow the court judgement of the European Court. It is just not compatible with what we campaigned for and what people voted for, which was taking back control. Taking back control of our laws, our borders, our money, and crucially – the ability to have our own bilateral international trade agreements. Chequers is a very very bad deal for Britain.”

Theresa May's Brexit plan, calling for close regulatory alignment with the EU’s single market for British exports, is a firm push towards a soft Brexit.

The proposal includes plans to create a ”common rule book” – involving a free trade area with the EU on industrial and agricultural goods.

Both Remainers and Brexiteers have ridiculed Mrs May’s Chequers proposal, with Remainer Tory MP Justin Greening claiming it is hated more than poll tax.

Prominent Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg travelled with the House of Commons’ Brexit Committee to Brussels for a private meeting on Monday with the EU’s Chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier.

Speaking in Brussels following the meeting, Mr Rees-Mogg ripped into the Chequers proposal and said politicians in both the UK and EU think it is “absolute rubbish”.

Mr Rees-Mogg said: “Mr Barnier was, as you would expect, was extraordinarily charming and well informed. He and I found that we were in a considerable degree of agreement that Chequers is absolute rubbish and that we should chuck it and what we should have is a Canada-style free trade deal. He seemed to think that was the way forward and has published charts showing that. So, interestingly eurosceptics and Michel Barnier are in a greater agreement than eurosceptics and the Government or Michel Barnier and the Government, it was very encouraging.”

The Prime Minister defended her Chequers plan this weekend claiming that she would not accept any compromises to her blueprint “that are not in our national interest”.

She'll never get that deal through parliament let alone get the EU to agree to it.

The EU want and need a deal and our money just as much if not more than we would like a deal so it's time to ditch May and her half hearted attempts and let a real Brexiteer negotiate our exit.

206 days to go.

Lord Mervyn King getting in on the act to pile pressure on the failings of TM and Parliment plus of course the Civil Service which is responsible for not putting forward the actions needed before the vote, as they were always lead to believe that David and the crew would win.

Heads should roll for their failings, and with it should go TM`s and make room for a natural leader that can give them the finger and get out ASAP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45400994

Make the ditch big enough to put the Brexiters in as well.

Or even a well.

I use 'NewsNow.co.uk' which is a compilation of news headlines from across the world or the EU or the UK or a combination of anything you want. Each headline has a few descriptive words and a link to the actual article. I recommend it.

This morning, I was greeted with lots of 'blacked out headlines' instead of the actual headlines themselves - all preceded by a large message box saying:

The EU is threatening your access to online news.

By making news headlines from certain publications pay-per-view, Article 11 of the Copyright Directive will diminish choice and limit your freedom to share online, compromising the free flow of information NewsNow is part of and democracy relies on.

MEPs vote next Wednesday. You still have time to act.

There were also three link boxes for the reader's selection within the main box. I've included the link URL's for you:

1. Unblock headlines - This did what it said and it unblocked the headlines
2. Read more on Article 11 - https://juliareda.eu/eu-copyright-reform/extra-copyright-for-news-sites/
3. Contact your MEP - Please click to email one of the following influential UK MEPs: (There was a list of all the MEPs with clickable links) and the following example e-mail:

Example email

Subject: Please vote against Article 11


Dear [MEP's NAME HERE],

I am writing to express my objections to Article 11 of the proposed new EU Copyright Directive.

Article 11 will limit freedom of expression and access to information, as search engines and social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter and Google stop displaying or prohibit the sharing of news snippets from charging publications.

Article 11 may also facilitate the spread of fake news, published by websites which do not charge for reproduction of their snippets.

Similar measures tried in Germany and Spain have not worked. They have disadvantaged smaller publications - who rely on search engines and social media platforms to reach their audiences, and do not have the resources to pursue legal claims - and cemented the dominance of the largest media corporations, diminishing choice and media diversity. There is no evidence they will work at an EU level, and even the EU Commissionâs own internal Joint Research Centre report highlights that there is no evidence that online aggregators have a negative impact on original newspaper publishers' revenue, and to the contrary, aggregators likely complement newspaper websites and boost visits.

While some news publishers may be facing genuine funding pressures, there is no evidence that any new revenues publishers would receive from Article 11 will exceed the revenues lost as a consequence of reduced traffic due to reduced hyperlinking. I am therefore calling on you to stand up for freedom of information and media diversity, and vote against the proposed Article 11.

Yours sincerely,

[YOUR NAME HERE]
[YOUR ADDRESS, OR TOWN OR POSTCODE]

Don't worry we'll be out in 204 days and then they can stick their Articles where the sun don't shine.