HUSTLER
- 17 Nov 2004 20:02
NETeller - NLR - 3.15
Thought i would start a new thread following on from
hawick - new issue looks very special - not to steal the thunder from
hawick but just to highlight the company name to those not already in to this
potential blockbuster.
Those of us who are following NETeller know the background and have been
active with postings,for newcomers i strongly sugest viewing the
( new issue looks very special posting )the content will speak for itself.
Brief overview of NETeller
The company handles online cash transactions across the globe
on 21st oct gained fsa approval to operate as a regulated e-money issuer
and will passport the regulated status to all 25 EU member states
it has over 1 million clients rising by 2000 number each day
1500 online merchants and processed over $1.5 billion in 2003
pre tax profit is estimated to be 29 million to dec 04 rising to
40 million next year
per currently 20 to dec 04 falling to 11.5 which is low for sector
brokers have been raising forcasts on a regular basis
share price has risen over 50% since launch earlier this year
new markets emerging constantly,asia has the potential for supergrowth
online casinos are creating enormous profits
given all this - cash generative - huge market - fsa approval
infastructure in place to handle growth, profits accrue to bottom line
the market force is behind it with good relative strength
all put together it is hard to argue against this has the potential
to be a blockbuster over the year ahead
regards HUSTLER
Dil
- 29 Apr 2005 20:39
- 944 of 1341
I'm not a master investor eric , lucky b*stard sounds about right :-)
EWRobson
- 29 Apr 2005 21:36
- 945 of 1341
I know your Welsh but not every Welshman is a bastard is he? :-)
How do you see next week? Could go either way. Not sure any real evidence that short positions have been closed.
Eric
Dil
- 29 Apr 2005 23:13
- 946 of 1341
Dunno , closed all my positions even in the game and only going to try trading with the trend if there is one and not going to try second guess what will happen.
If the US is closed Monday then rally should continue first thing Tuesday but after that I wouldn't like to guess.
Checked the charts of all FTSE100 companies last night and a lot had fallen to key support levels so guessed there could be a bounce but if pushed I would say their is more pain to come somewhere along the line.
Good luck.
goldfinger
- 29 Apr 2005 23:26
- 947 of 1341
Evil revealed his hand this afternoon says the competition is coming from Firepay, obviously hasnt a clue as Firepay as been there all along and is only a third the size of NLR, check out the SBT site and others, its been there for over 2 years. Seemingly they are floating so what, this isnt new competition and they are a poor substitute for NLR.
When and if the markets recover Evil will be under big pressure. Anyway I have tried to speak to him this afternoon but couldnt get hold of him so left a message.
cheers GF.
Dil
- 29 Apr 2005 23:34
- 948 of 1341
Ask him how much he is still down on RGU , that'll cheer you up.
EWRobson
- 30 Apr 2005 21:00
- 949 of 1341
gf: Good idea to talk to Evil as you obviously know him personally. He announced a short on SEO and I suspect lost on it; he announced the next week that a firend had talked it out of him. Again he had got it wrong by a bit of a generalisation: lumped SEO with BPRG in terms of their valuation far outstripping their cashflow. No doubt he made a mint on BPRG and could claim to be right. However, he had not researched SEO to realise the immensely strong cash projections from their licensing arrangements. My view is that NLR is way below its fundamental value (cf. Evolution) because of the recent shorting programme. No doubt EK is sitting on a profit - it would be a great help if this was out of the way! Good luck!
Eric
goldfinger
- 03 May 2005 01:34
- 950 of 1341
Hi Eric, NLR as been given to him as a tip from someone else. He says their margins are going to be hit by the competion and floatation of Firepay, but lets facew it Firepay have been around since NLR listed and they have made no inroads on NLRs market share.
Hes just using scare tactics in a nervous market.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 03 May 2005 09:25
- 951 of 1341
Added again this morning. Looks like Bears closing their positions and moving over to the Bull side.
cheers GF.
blackbelt
- 03 May 2005 09:29
- 952 of 1341
Im in to this one this morning watched and waited but didnt want to buy in friday incase the onslaught started again this morning.
Great long term punt especially during the summer months with rns expected in the next couple of months from EVO. the summer sell off is gonna hit lots of stocks even harder good to be a company thats extremely cash generative
goldfinger
- 03 May 2005 09:46
- 953 of 1341
Agreed blackbelt. If we can get a positive finish today we should hve removed the majoriy of shorters.
cheers GF.
HUSTLER
- 03 May 2005 10:28
- 954 of 1341
hi gallick
Like most i suspect who invest mainly on the Aim and Smallcaps
we have all seen some of our best performers battered over the last
couple of months,and is probable we look to individual shares
and think somthing has gone wrong.Panic is rife over NLR falling
by over a third from its high price.However when you look at the index
in general the Aim has had a lot lot of bad press recently over
concerns of overheating as it has doubled in the last 2 years to
begining of march compared to FT 100 - up 30% in same period.
The last 6 weeks has seen the Aim index corrected by over 14%
the hardest hit have been those with the biggest gains NLR being one
and in good company.It should be noted NLR is one of the highest
capped companies on Aim so when the market corrects the biggest
companies can be hit hardest causing a domino effect throughout
the index, remember dogs and plodders don't move markets.
But the best preformers do and can beat the market by a long way
unfortunatly the same applies in reverse, where next is anyones
guess but looking at NLR all the fundanentals still appear
to be in great shape,a move to a larger index must be a concideration
for it's Directors as it is still one of the fastest growing
companies out there,and deserves a much higher rating.
regards HUSTLER
gallick
- 03 May 2005 12:28
- 955 of 1341
>> I agree with all you say - the markets are choppy to say the least! IMHO the buy and hold technique is history at times like this. When the trend is down you have to get out or at least cut your position even if you think the share has great long term potential. It also of course means knowing when to get back in is hard to judge. This could resume its tumble, but around 5 it feels safer than 6 or 7.
rgrds
gk
HUSTLER
- 03 May 2005 13:21
- 956 of 1341
I agree gallick
Life is a lot easier when the markets are rising,
the turn can be very quick and painfull.
I am still fully invested in NLR but concerned
the index correction isn't over, a shift lower
and i will be aborting a lot of stock.
Not only NLR.
In the meantime i am watching very carefully
with anticipation the worst is over.
Good luck to everyone.
regards HUSTLER
EWRobson
- 03 May 2005 13:26
- 957 of 1341
Hustler: Super post. Also primarily an AIM player. You see many threads where holders are wondering what is wrong with their stock. But it is the AIM index down 14% - does that include the 1.5% this morning? Its really a general correction. However, it may go on because the charts are generally negative. NLR may trade in the 450p to 550p band for a while yet. Those prepared to buy and tuck away until the Autumn will come out well - little doubt.
Eric
HUSTLER
- 03 May 2005 19:00
- 958 of 1341
Hi Eric
The main indices performed well today including the teckmark.
Only the Aim and Smallcaps lagged behind closing just ahead
the Dow and Nas are only just ahead at time of post,
so we have to be vigilant again tomorrow.
Hope the post earlier today puts in perspective what is
happening to the markets in general.
ps for what it's worth - NLR - British Bulls have posted
a Buy Confirmed signal tonight, i don't generally follow them
but any good signal is welcome at present.
All the best
HUSTLER
goldfinger
- 04 May 2005 01:37
- 959 of 1341
Yes some good posts Hustler. Heres hoping we are positive again Wednesday.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 04 May 2005 01:59
- 960 of 1341
http://tinyurl.com/6s3hy
Elric Lloyd-Langton
April 3, 2005
NETeller (NLR) has been a top ten feature for lemming, since we featured it at 193p in early 2004,
when we made a case which suggested it would benefit from the on-line gaming boom through its
expertise in e-cash transfers between the gamblers and the casinos, particularly where the
gamblers bank or card issuer do not like their cards to be used for on-line gambling. There is
another beneficial side to NETeller; growing abuse related to credit card transactions on-line,
particularly where the gambler claims his/her card has been used fraudulently, usually after a
heavy loss. The verification measures put in place by NETeller make them an attractive cash portal
for casinos and the gambler seeking to hide his/her habits from the prying eyes of their banks. In
deed, this has been the case, which if as predicted by pundits in the US, credit cards will be banned
for all on-line gambling in many states. However, this argument is not a new one, this has been
rumbling on for years.
Dirty shorts
The shares are off their high of 757p on the back of profit taking and what I believe are unwise
short positions being opened recently by EK and no doubt, one or two of his followers. A
combination of these sent the shares tumbling to 585p, before the shares gained some ground,
closing 636p on Friday, still some 230% up on our 193p. EK`s case for his short appears to be
concerns regarding competition from similar companies, of which they are numerous; these include,
click2play, payspark, ECO and e-cash direct, the latter a subsidiary of Cryptologic, (another
beneficiary of on on-line gambling craze) There's nothing new about this competition, its was there
before NETeller listed in London in April 2004. Since then NETeller have continued to make great
progress in terms of increased customer base and increased revenues. NETeller`s main rival
PayPal, could offer serious competition to NETeller, however, e-Bay owner of PayPal refuses to
service the gaming industry. Firepay and Click2pay do not offering instant indemnified funds to
merchants.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 04 May 2005 11:13
- 961 of 1341
Nice to see this one positive again.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 04 May 2005 12:18
- 962 of 1341
Looking strong again like it did yesterday afternoon.
cheers GF.
blackbelt
- 04 May 2005 12:56
- 963 of 1341
It does indeed goldfinger I'm glad i took the plunge yesterday and brought in. I missed out on this one the last time but was amazed i got the chance to get in so cheap. I read the analysts reports 875p price target thats with build in conservative estimated taken into consideration competition, exchange rates and potentially retrictive US regulation (Which hopefully will wilt at the the WTO power)
The shorters have had their fun with this one and feel confident to add more on any short lived weakness..........