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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 17 Sep 2018 17:53 - 9470 of 12628

is being a subject the same as being being a citizen?
i'ld guess not and thus the nuance

Fred1new - 18 Sep 2018 09:14 - 9471 of 12628

Clocktower - 18 Sep 2018 15:14 - 9472 of 12628

cynic, Also a resident citizen, not only a subject but one that wants the privilaeges removed for all, and the only way is for BREXIT to mean BREXIT.

cynic - 18 Sep 2018 15:17 - 9473 of 12628

there must be something more than what you have divulged, as certainly someone born of english parents and in england assuredly has the right to work in eu

Dil - 18 Sep 2018 16:21 - 9474 of 12628

Ooooo I think I'm having an erotic spasm Vince.

292 days to go and the only way your getting a second referendum is if the two choices on the paper are deal or no deal.

Fred1new - 18 Sep 2018 16:50 - 9475 of 12628

Dill,

I thought you might have been retained in Sunderland at the weekend.

Must have been some of your mates.

Clocktower - 18 Sep 2018 17:41 - 9476 of 12628

cynic - other than my grandmother was French - I have stated the facts - however - four of my children are in the same position, with the same statement typed in their Passports but one child does not have this in theirs. Work that one out!

However, I did not say I was born in England but I did say I was born in the UK just to clarify, not that it should make any difference, as a British Passport covers anyone born in the whole of the UK not just England.

Cerise Noire Girl - 18 Sep 2018 20:35 - 9477 of 12628

292 days, Dilbert?

I hope you're not confusing your Brexit countdown with anything sheep-related!

:o)

Dil - 18 Sep 2018 22:28 - 9478 of 12628

it was the erotic spasm I was having hils :-)

Don't think I could put up with an extra 100 days of remoaners crying.

Sorry Fred , not seen what happened in Sunderland.

cynic - 19 Sep 2018 13:10 - 9479 of 12628

well CT, there's clearly something you aren't telling us to make you non grata as an employee in eu

Fred1new - 19 Sep 2018 18:33 - 9480 of 12628

More fairy tales for Dil and Manual.

https://www.ft.com/content/962ff0b0-b841-11e8-b3ef-799c8613f4a1?segmentId=c841d669-8dab-e460-26f0-30ea79c2a1d0

Clocktower - 19 Sep 2018 18:41 - 9481 of 12628

cynic, there are around 3/4 thousand others like myself - All EU counties seem more than willing to have us but but we have to apply, as it is not a automic right, in fact I would go so far as to say that in general they welcome us with open arms subject to application.

I guess you might be in the same position if Bexit means Brexit, as I would like. Then your in the same boat as all of us. Believe me, they will then welcome you with open arms, if you meet the calibre.

cynic - 19 Sep 2018 22:07 - 9482 of 12628

i have long been unemployable as i'm too much of a maverick, and now disqualify myself on age too

Fred1new - 20 Sep 2018 08:33 - 9483 of 12628

Clocktower - 20 Sep 2018 08:42 - 9484 of 12628

Cynic, At least you were employable at some point it seems, I have never been employable, and have never been employed by anyone, as I doubt I could have managed to accept orders but it shows what one good teacher in my last year at school, who gave me a glowing report, unlike all others bar the maths and science teachers, and what that can mean to a 15 year old. The guy in question, was a wise old teacher in his seventies, that most laughed at but I connected mentally with, and his words that he wrote my parents in my last report never left me from the day I walk out of that school on my 15th birthday.

I asked myself where he would have stood on Brexit - and his reply I guess would have been just "Pray for the right result".

Fred1new - 20 Sep 2018 11:15 - 9485 of 12628

Its good to see Viktor Orban and TM are bedmates.

Fred1new - 20 Sep 2018 16:39 - 9486 of 12628

TM is playing a blinder in Salzburg.

Should solve the problems of the Cons.



VICTIM - 20 Sep 2018 16:50 - 9487 of 12628

Still fancy her then .

2517GEORGE - 20 Sep 2018 16:52 - 9488 of 12628

But who is going to settle the feud between Corbie & Watsie, your guys need to get their house in order, something that you never remark on.

Fred1new - 20 Sep 2018 17:04 - 9489 of 12628

Not my problem.

Mind seeing the destruction job TM has done to the Home Office and Prisons I am not surprised at the chaos she is causing.

Ps. When are they going to sack Grayling?

What a 10year period of misgovernment.

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