Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic, Also a resident citizen, not only a subject but one that wants the privilaeges removed for all, and the only way is for BREXIT to mean BREXIT.

there must be something more than what you have divulged, as certainly someone born of english parents and in england assuredly has the right to work in eu

Ooooo I think I'm having an erotic spasm Vince.

292 days to go and the only way your getting a second referendum is if the two choices on the paper are deal or no deal.

Dill,

I thought you might have been retained in Sunderland at the weekend.

Must have been some of your mates.

cynic - other than my grandmother was French - I have stated the facts - however - four of my children are in the same position, with the same statement typed in their Passports but one child does not have this in theirs. Work that one out!

However, I did not say I was born in England but I did say I was born in the UK just to clarify, not that it should make any difference, as a British Passport covers anyone born in the whole of the UK not just England.

292 days, Dilbert?

I hope you're not confusing your Brexit countdown with anything sheep-related!

:o)

it was the erotic spasm I was having hils :-)

Don't think I could put up with an extra 100 days of remoaners crying.

Sorry Fred , not seen what happened in Sunderland.

well CT, there's clearly something you aren't telling us to make you non grata as an employee in eu

More fairy tales for Dil and Manual.

https://www.ft.com/content/962ff0b0-b841-11e8-b3ef-799c8613f4a1?segmentId=c841d669-8dab-e460-26f0-30ea79c2a1d0

cynic, there are around 3/4 thousand others like myself - All EU counties seem more than willing to have us but but we have to apply, as it is not a automic right, in fact I would go so far as to say that in general they welcome us with open arms subject to application.

I guess you might be in the same position if Bexit means Brexit, as I would like. Then your in the same boat as all of us. Believe me, they will then welcome you with open arms, if you meet the calibre.

i have long been unemployable as i'm too much of a maverick, and now disqualify myself on age too

Cynic, At least you were employable at some point it seems, I have never been employable, and have never been employed by anyone, as I doubt I could have managed to accept orders but it shows what one good teacher in my last year at school, who gave me a glowing report, unlike all others bar the maths and science teachers, and what that can mean to a 15 year old. The guy in question, was a wise old teacher in his seventies, that most laughed at but I connected mentally with, and his words that he wrote my parents in my last report never left me from the day I walk out of that school on my 15th birthday.

I asked myself where he would have stood on Brexit - and his reply I guess would have been just "Pray for the right result".

Its good to see Viktor Orban and TM are bedmates.

TM is playing a blinder in Salzburg.

Should solve the problems of the Cons.

Still fancy her then .

But who is going to settle the feud between Corbie & Watsie, your guys need to get their house in order, something that you never remark on.

Not my problem.

Mind seeing the destruction job TM has done to the Home Office and Prisons I am not surprised at the chaos she is causing.

Ps. When are they going to sack Grayling?

What a 10year period of misgovernment.

I don't totally disagree but it is easy to criticise when you haven't got to make the decisions, Brexit has taken far too much parliamentary time thanks to Remoaners who only want democracy if it suits them.


Like many Tory/floating voters I am disappointed in much of what has not happened in the last 8 years but that is far better than the wasteland the UK will be turned into if Corbie's thugs get elected.

Death due to slow poisoning isn't much better than a bullet in the head.

Democracy.

Is it undemocratic to ignore the view of the public as a whole when it has obviously changed?

(Governments when elected often reverse decisions previously made. The reversals may be grumbled at, but at least, in general, those decisions are argued first and then voted on,)

If one sees somebody making a mistake and likely to be slide over a cliff if they continue along their previously chosen route, to stop them, advise them of the probable problems and allow them a chance to review their decision.

But are those who appear "frightened" to accept another referendum and/or G/E aware that many were deceived by false optimism into voting the way they did.

I question the reasons why many of the most ardent "leaders" of Brexit "wish" to be free of Europe.

Free to do what?

Personally, I would like to see the "true" financial" arrangements and hope for future arrangements of many of those leaders. Not the hoi polloi like myself.

Follow the money!