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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


shamona - 16 Sep 2005 14:47 - 9472 of 27111

Perhaps one day masterson will go the whole day without ramping!






Then again, maybe not:-(

Dormar - 16 Sep 2005 14:50 - 9473 of 27111

PM, Hi

Yes, I would be surprised if it didn't include Starpol.

I'm not sure how many ready meals, and therefore machines, a 30m contract implies, but if it's say 10 machines, the royalty to Stanelco would be 250k. Which as a percentage of 30m is naff all.
Northern Foods would be saving somewhere near 1m annualy, by adopting Greenseal.

So I can't imagine that ASDA had to do too much arm twisting!!!.

shamona - 16 Sep 2005 14:55 - 9474 of 27111

Dormar

Says Stanelco, show me some independant research?????????

KingKonggb - 16 Sep 2005 14:56 - 9475 of 27111

Dormar,

Good point about the percentage. If that is the case, do you think SEO will have to issue an RNS about a tie up with Northern Foods? Let's face it, we only found out that five machines have already been converted when we initially thought that it was only 2/3.

I can't see SEO issuing an RNS on how many machines get converted each time as all we know that the original exclusive 12 month contract with ASDA mentioned several hundred. Maybe once all have been converted then we might get some substantive feedback.

IMHO

Kong

Sharesure - 16 Sep 2005 15:04 - 9476 of 27111

I tried to find out from SEO when the Mondini RF machine would be ready. No launch date has as yet been fixed/publicised. The impression is that the machine is virtually ready but needs testing. I still think that the availability of that machine will put a rocket under the number of RF machines being used around the world.

lindos - 16 Sep 2005 15:05 - 9477 of 27111

Bhunt
Hi, can you explain what o SEX regs are please
thanks.

Oilywag - 16 Sep 2005 15:12 - 9478 of 27111

lindos

Ask your partner. Probably means, not to night darling, I've got a head ache. To which there is a classic response which I cannot post on here.

If anyone tells you it is anything to do with Stock Exchange Regulations, they're lying.

The oily one

bhunt1910 - 16 Sep 2005 15:36 - 9479 of 27111

SEX regs - yes I did mean Stock Exchange Regs - only passing on what I was told by SEO

Baza

Oilywag - 16 Sep 2005 15:39 - 9480 of 27111

Baza

Oh no, not another one, believing everything that SEO tells you. You're worse than PM1!

LOLling about

The oily one

elrico - 16 Sep 2005 15:41 - 9481 of 27111

shamona,


"Retired engineer" sure you have the right man mate:-) He certainly did not start the website either.

BPRG inaugural coverage at 55p, its high was 165p within a year and before the bears got their claws in to it. Now the company has got shot of a over optimistic CEO.

SEO inaugural, 7.75p, high 31p

The site you are trying to discredit, has amassed gains of more than 1300%, (ASOS AT PEAK)

Ashtead @ 20p, now 139p

Airpartner @ 242p now 622p

Axis @ 155p now 630p

Dragon oil @ 45p now 172p

JKX @22p, now 220p

London clubs @55p now 124p

Petrel resources @36p now 72p

NETeller @ 197, now 855p

The list goes on. And there are many more companies that are well off their highs since inauguration. Given you are not a subscriber, I would suggest you are now qualified to state who is.

What makes the financial press qualified? Or the tipsheet editors/analysts? Have they all sat FSA exams? NO!!

TW has a young editor of just 22 year of age for his new site. He may be FSA regulated by association, but he has no formal qualifications, yet he tip shares.

paulmasterson1 - 16 Sep 2005 15:54 - 9482 of 27111


Dormar hi,

Looking at the percentages, I think that ready meal prices are roughly between 1.20 and 2.80, so if we say the average is 2, ASDA will be making a very good profit, so lets say ASDA pay an average of 80p per meal, 30,000,000 divided by .80 equals 37,500,000 meals .... no wonder Northern wanted the contract, and no wonder Ferndale would be bitter if they knew Northern were the third Grenseal trialler, and were after their contract !!!!

Starpol saves 1p per tray, a saving of 375,000, to add to the 1,000,000 Greenseal saving, and it just makes so much sense, that the deal would include them both.

Cheers,
PM

Dormar - 16 Sep 2005 15:58 - 9483 of 27111

KingKonggb

Good question. I think they will issue an RNS re Northern Foods, but whether or not they have to is another question. Some think that because ASDA have already
committed to the conversion of several hundred machines, announcing each machine conversion contract thereafter, is unecessary.

I'm not so sure about that. I think they probably will have to announce each conversion contract, because it's the conversion contracts that count, not ASDA's
committment to convert several hundred machines, which they may or may not deliver.

I would love to know what the ASDA agreement actually says. We know there is this committment for the conversion of several hundred machines, but surely this can't amount to more than a promise to use their best endevours to pursuade their ready meal ( ect ) suppliers to convert? Surely they can't make them?

But what encourages me now, is that we may well be seeing just what sort of 'best endevours' ASDA are prepared to use, if you know what I mean!!
After all, Ferndale were a Greenseal triallist, and they appear to have been unceremonially dumped in favour of Northern Foods, who were prepared ( or more likely able ) to move more quickly on Greenseal.

Cheers

Dormar

bhunt1910 - 16 Sep 2005 16:04 - 9484 of 27111

Oily - sorry - I am but a novice at these things so I tend to beleive most of what some people say if I think they are credible.

In my book - SEO's management team are a credible bunch trying their darndest to make a world beating company, shamoaner is not

If thats a bit black & white - put it down to my lack of experience in these matters.

baza

paulmasterson1 - 16 Sep 2005 16:08 - 9485 of 27111


Elrico Hi,

Here here !!!!

sham owner is just belend the bitter bprg lemon from advfn, been bashing SEO for years, and when I say years I mean years, right back to the start of the patent dispute he has posted all day, and quite often all night, bashing SEO, and does not have a life outside it !

sham (shm)
n.
1. Something false or empty that is purported to be genuine; a spurious imitation.
2. The quality of deceitfulness; empty pretense.
3. One who assumes a false character; an impostor:


Still ROTFLMAO at the sham losing out on 4.1p to 19p

Still proving the idiot wrong with every release of a Stanelco RNS

And still squelching the basher so I don't have to read the drivel any more

Cheers,
PM


Oilywag - 16 Sep 2005 16:10 - 9486 of 27111

Baza

My post was made in jest. Hope no offence was taken.

The oily one

paulmasterson1 - 16 Sep 2005 16:11 - 9487 of 27111


Baza Hi,

Quality :))))

Cheers,
PM

bosley - 16 Sep 2005 16:20 - 9488 of 27111

the speculation concerning northern and some of the numbers is getting ridiculous. if anyone actually believes asda give a shit about seo is deluded. asda are concerned with asda only. rf can make savings.tests have been done and these savings have been worked out. evo's note said that asda will be telling their suppliers that they want these savings reflected in the price. how the suppliers make the savings is up to the suppliers. they are under no obligation to switch to greenseal or starpol, however good and fantastic it appears to us. remember that asda only want to make profit for asda. until there is an rns telling us about more orders, the number of conversions is 5 and we are now in month 2 of the one year exclusivity deal.

bhunt1910 - 16 Sep 2005 16:27 - 9489 of 27111

Oily - I thought it was - but was not quite sure - no offence taken

Baza

paulmasterson1 - 16 Sep 2005 16:33 - 9490 of 27111

Bosley Hi,

I don't think we are deluded, and I have evidence to back up my beliefs that ASDA want Greenseal, so that they can advertise their products are better than any other UK retailers.

Go chat to Tony Ruane, like I did back in March of this year, and you will see why.

tony.ruane@asda.co.uk

Cheers,
PM

bosley - 16 Sep 2005 16:44 - 9491 of 27111

paul, asda want bigger profits. greenseal can help them achieve that by cutting the cost of packaging. if the suppliers adopt greenseal and save asda money, it's fantastic for seo and us. if the suppliers can make the same savings by other methods, asda wont care about seo. that's what i believe, and there is plenty of proof about that the major supermarkets dont give a shit about the companies they deal with. all i am saying is let's wait for confirmation of orders before we start counting the money.
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