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forgot about the footie, have been on the darts on sky - awesome performance from Barneveld in the first match including a 9 darter

Boro look a tad short to me but two poor sides

Hi Steve. At my old man's so no messenger.

no probs, can chat on here if anything intersting

So thats where your hiding!

I am.

Evening Guys

Just got in but doesn't look like I've missed a lot on the footy

Eveing Bak. Late night tonight?

Not really, just dinner at the in laws

Ever seen Phil Taylor start a game at more than 1.5? - you will tonite when he plays Barneveld

SA - Australia 2nd Test - late 2nd day. Aus 349 for 9. Just backed the draw at 2.54 - seems reasonable value

Smith wasn't supposed to be out for a golden duck on the first ball of the innings. Would that be a diamond duck?

Not looking so clever now. Gibbs a serious loss. Covered for now - so red on the draw and will wait 'til tomorrow before reappraising.

Afternoon Edward

Sorry to see that you're out of the money at the moment with that 1st ball wicket. Now 2 wickets gone as I write.

Not really following this match but watched some this am. Even though Aus scored well the bounce has been inconsistent all morning and could get worse over the next couple of days. Probably, why Aus odds were quite low before SA batted. Only chance of a draw could be the weather which you can check on this

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/SFXX0011?from=weekend_topnav_business

I'm not the resident cricket expert so above just my own opinion

Thanks Bak, though I can't get weather.com to function at the moment. It must be down.

I had been thinking adverse weather was a small probability and that with Aus having used up over 1 2/3 days in their modest first innings that time would be the major factor.

With hindsight, having to face Lee and Kaspowitz must have put fear into the S Africans and I didn't allow for that

When I last checked it was Sun-Sunny, Mon-Partly Cloudy and Tues-Showers am.

Also Warne was turning the ball a bit too.

Anyone on the scouse derby?

Gerrard sent off after 2 yellows with only 18mins gone

Liv odds drifted out from 1.7s to 2.9s on that sending off

Superb own goal from a Neville header to give Liv the lead

bakko - That man Henman in the firing line again on 404 Sky Sports Extra now. Match 5060339

Just spoekn to him Edward - he's just leaving work for home.