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The Forex Thread (FX)     

hilary - 31 Dec 2003 13:00

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FreemanFox - 26 Mar 2008 10:49 - 9559 of 11056

I'm short cable from 2.0064 on strong retrace back through the 50% fib level of the last major move starting from the 14 March high to the 20 March low.

Not really trading much over next couple of weeks as kids school holidays. I'll see how the cable short looks later today with a view of trying to leave it in place for quite a few days or more.

Also looking to short EUR/USD depending on how reacts today but I might miss it as will not be around to monitor things very closely.

hilary - 26 Mar 2008 11:06 - 9560 of 11056

I'm short from the top of my channel at 2.0107. Unfortunately I missed the top of the market by a couple of pips, so I'm going back to the drawing board to improve my system which is clearly flawed.

I really must try to do better next time.

:o)

johngtudor - 26 Mar 2008 12:36 - 9561 of 11056

Quite right Hilary, you need focus!!!!

hilary - 26 Mar 2008 12:53 - 9562 of 11056

I'm not a lover of Fords, JT, although I used to have a Capri Ghia. Couldn't reach the pedals though, so I bought a Triumph Vitesse instead.

johngtudor - 26 Mar 2008 14:22 - 9563 of 11056

May I ask what wheels you have these days Hils, I can guess but that may be presumptuous. Is it more dreams!

hilary - 26 Mar 2008 14:29 - 9564 of 11056

Oh nothing flash, JT. I drive a Compact Pussycat nowadays.

johngtudor - 26 Mar 2008 14:36 - 9565 of 11056

Puurrfect Hils, I would expect nothing less of you. You must be the envy of all your female friends!

johngtudor - 26 Mar 2008 18:33 - 9566 of 11056

Nice bounce off the Weekly Pivot on Cable Hils!

chocolat - 28 Mar 2008 10:18 - 9567 of 11056

EUR/JPY got very close to resistance from December's high just now.
Also coincides with a 50% fib retracement jobbie off the 149 to 167+ rise

ptholden - 31 Mar 2008 12:45 - 9568 of 11056

Looking at the EUR/JPY this morning, seems to have worked itself into a triangle or wedge thing or summat. Trying to make my mind up whether it's a long or a short, can't say I'm anything like sure, but I think it might be poised for an assault on the res referred to by chocolate (above post) so I'm going to go for a long with a target of 158.50 :)

ptholden - 31 Mar 2008 13:38 - 9569 of 11056

Well, that's that theory stuffed, dropped out of the bottom of the triangle rather than shooting out the top, back to the drawing board :(

ptholden - 31 Mar 2008 14:15 - 9570 of 11056

Managed to dig myself out of a hole by adding again further down, not really sure what's next, either with FX or the DOW, which means I don't know a lot!

ptholden - 31 Mar 2008 14:58 - 9571 of 11056

EUR/JPY bounced off a FIB level during the last 20 mins or so and also pushed its nose (albeit briefly) above falling resistance. Perhaps 158.50 is still on the cards during the session?

johngtudor - 31 Mar 2008 17:03 - 9572 of 11056

I would be interested to know what spread you are getting on the Yen crosses.


Thanks in advance.

ptholden - 31 Mar 2008 17:25 - 9573 of 11056

John, 4 pips on EUR/JPY with IG Index

johngtudor - 02 Apr 2008 09:45 - 9574 of 11056

Hi everybody,

Looks like we have a good Eur/Yen trade setting up. Check out the 4hr timeframe.

hilary - 04 Apr 2008 07:12 - 9575 of 11056

March Non Farm PayrollConsensus Estimate 50K to 70K Loss in Payroll Jobs Release time: April 4, 2008 8:30 AM EST!

The February jobs report came in remarkably weaker than expected by dropping another 63,000, causing the Fed to aggressively cut the federal funds rate by 75 basis points. Februarys decline in payroll jobs, the largest such decrease since a colossal 212,000 fall in March 2003, was notably worse than the consensus projection for a 25,000 rebound and mar ked a third consecutive month of decline.

Exacerbating the situation, not only did February come in weak, but the prior two months were also revised down. The initial January estimate of a 17,000 drop was revised down 5,000, while December was revised down 41,000 from the previous estimate of an 82,000 increase. For Janu ary and December combined, the net revision was down 46,000, indicative of a very clear downward path. February also marked a full year of payroll survey weakness in the goods-producing sectors, with both construction and manufacturing entering its 21st consecutive monthly decline.

Several key factors are thought to have influenced the February NFP report. They include:

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Government payroll expected to add just 15K to March payrolls
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Private service providing payrolls expected to edge just -5K lower, from -12K in February and a 100K average in Q4
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Unemployment rate expected to rebound to 4.9% following Decembers 5% high

For week ending March 29, 2008, the Department of Labor reported that the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 407,000, an increase of 38,000 from the previous weeks revised figure of 369,000. They also reported a four-week moving average of 374,500, a n increase of 15,750 from the previous weeks revised average of 358,750.

The back-to-back payroll declines that started 2008 is disturbing for the economy as the weaker growth has become more broad-based and trend like. Payrolls have shown weaker growth for four months from a 140K gain in October. Unemployment is rising from the March low of 4.4% but fell to 4.8% in February after reaching 5% in December. Employment trends lag the economy as final demandin excess of labor productivityfeeds in to labor demand. Earnings growth is fading and stands at 3.7% compared to the 4.3% yoy high of late 2006. The loosening labor market is being watched for signs of unravelingwhich many analysts will say has arrived in the payroll data.

What is the non-farm payroll report?

Of all the world monthly economic reports, the monthly US NFP report is the most highly anticipated and has the most dramatic impact on the currency market.

The report, which is released on the first Friday of each month and states the previous months numbers, provides detailed industry data on employment, hours and earnings of workers on nonfarm payrolls. These numbers are the best way to gauge the current state of the US market as well as the direction that the economy is heading.

Whats more, the employment numbers provided by the report are used by the Fed to shape their interest rate policies. The health of the US economy and interest rates translate to the strength or weakness of the US dollar.

chocolat - 04 Apr 2008 09:05 - 9576 of 11056

SINGAPORE (Dow Jones)--Whatever the U.S. March jobs report produces Friday, it is likely to set the tone for how the U.S. dollar trades in the second quarter of this year.

Economists are looking for a third monthly fall in non-farm payrolls, though there are some reasons to think the data won't print as badly as is now forecast.

A Dow Jones Newswires poll pegs jobs to fall 50,000 after a decline of 63,000 in February, with the jobless rate expected to rise to 5.0% from 4.8%.

The data are likely to lay out more clearly to investors what the outlook is for the U.S. economy, particularly how strong (or not) consumer sentiment will be.

As we all know, the consumer is the lynchpin of the economy. If the jobs market falls into a hole, that's going to put the skids on consumption in a big way.

Currency traders will therefore be looking at the payrolls data very closely indeed, for clues on the fortunes of the greenback going forward.

A number in line with expectations would reinforce the view the economy continues to slow. That would probably not be good news for the U.S. dollar.

If the payrolls fall is larger than expected, we'll get a lot of names rushing around and shouting the "R" word, with futures markets moving to price in more aggressive Federal Reserve interest rate cuts than is currently the case. That would further erode the dollar's appeal.

But if the number isn't as bad as forecast, look for some unwinding of dollar shorts on the view the U.S. slowdown won't be as long or as deep as feared, and that rates won't have to be sliced so heavily from here.

So are we going to be looking behind door A, B or C?

The data are notoriously volatile and thus hard to predict. Getting that caveat out of the way, though, there are a few reasons to hope the data won't be as horrible as some might believe.

This column has spoken before of the increasing importance of the services sector to the U.S. economy.

So we can take some heart from the March Institute for Supply Management's non-manufacturing composite index, which is slowly crawling toward growth territory.

The index came in at 49.6 from 49.3 in February and 44.6 in January; it was higher than the 48.7 the market expected.

It's still below that old boom-or-bust threshold of 50, but within the overall data, the business activity index rose to 52.2 while the employment index was steady at 46.90, and the new orders index hit 50.2.

Some of the more spongy indicators have been reassuring, too.

Monster Worldwide's online-employment index rose 2 points in March to 167 with jobs in the arts, entertainment and recreation sectors surging.

Meanwhile the Challenger layoffs survey (which tracks news reports and public announcements of companies' job cut plans), showed the index falling 26% in March from February, though the index was still 9.4% higher than a year ago.

Some would point as well to the figures from payrolls giant Automatic Data Processing Inc. and consultancy Macroeconomic Advisers. They reported an 8,000 increase in private sector jobs in March, whereas a 7,000 fall had been expected.

It must be acknowledged though that ADP has a pretty choppy record in terms of correctly calling the overall payrolls data.

Pessimists of course would point to the weekly unemployment claims data Thursday, which showed claims surged to the highest level since 2005.

Initial claims for jobless benefits jumped by 38,000 to 407,000, after seasonal adjustments, though the more important and less volatile four-week average rose a less concerning 15,750 to 374,500. Wall Street had expected a 4,000-claim increase.

While this suggests things are deteriorating further, the data may have been skewed by technical difficulties calculating the figures, particularly seasonal issues arising from the timing of the Easter holiday.

The chance thus is that the payrolls data will indeed be weak, but not as weak as markets now expect.

That could leave some room for a dollar rebound heading into the weekend.

hilary - 04 Apr 2008 14:18 - 9577 of 11056

Cable seems to be trading into a pennant, bounded by the recent highs from 14th March (falling plum coloured line) and the recent lows from 20th February (rising blue coloured line).



edit: It's another 45 4 hour periods (ie 180 trading hours) till the bounding lines converge. There's therefore every possibility that cable will trade within the pennant until the MPC decision on Thursday.

chocolat - 04 Apr 2008 19:54 - 9578 of 11056

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--The optimism currency markets flashed this week that a U.S. recession was behind us won't support the dollar against the euro next week.

When the European Central Bank closes its rate-setting meeting Thursday, it will keep interest rates steady again, analysts said, and that will keep the dollar under pressure.

The greenback managed to hold back euro advances this week on testimony by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke to Congress on Wednesday that the second half of the year should see growth, despite the possibility of recession. Along with the release of some disappointing data in the euro zone, the interest rate differential seemed to narrow, giving the dollar some hope. Lower interest rates in the U.S. since the Fed embarked on aggressive rate cuts have cut the yield of the dollar, making it less attractive compared to its rivals.

But, as the dust settles, the fact remains the U.S. economy is in the dumps and the euro zone is focused on inflation, even if it's starting to feel the pinch. There'll be no change in that interest rate gap just yet, analysts said.

That means "the U.S. recession isn't old news," said David Gilmore, a partner at Foreign Exchange Analytics in Essex, Conn. And the shadow of a U.S. recession makes it difficult to build a story for a dollar bottom, he added.

However, with no major data releases ahead, currency movements are unlikely to have any clear direction throughout the week. Traders are unwilling to bet on the dollar's appreciation, but equally nervous about whether the ECB will allow the euro to advance much further. The combination is keeping the dollar volatile as markets figure out how long the U.S. will feel this downturn.

"In the short term, the dollar's going to be quite choppy against the euro and yen ... there's still a lot of uncertainty," said Adarsh Sinha, foreign exchange analyst at Barclays Capital in London.

The jumpiness could send the euro higher next week, and it may break its historical high against the dollar of $1.5905, strategists said.

Friday afternoon in New York, the euro was at $1.5712 from $1.5669 late Thursday, while the dollar was at Y102.03 from Y102.34. The euro was at Y160.23 from Y160.35, according to EBS. The U.K. pound was at $1.9935 from $1.9940 late Thursday, and the dollar was at CHF1.0082 from CHF1.0101.

Caution has led Lehman Brothers analysts to sell the euro against the dollar. "(The) ECB language could shift its hawkish rhetoric at any time," they warn.

There is a chance that ECB President Jean Claude Trichet will step up the rhetoric on the euro's moves on foreign exchange markets at the close of the rate-setting meeting - but it's slim. Simply, there's not much might to back up those words if the ECB isn't willing to cut interest rates - and it's not yet, due to its single mandate of controlling inflation.

Until the euro zone's rates come down, the dollar will remain in flux, said analysts, even if Bernanke's testimony hinted to some that monetary policy from here out will ease.

Indeed, after the third consecutive drop in U.S. payrolls Friday, financial markets didn't seem to believe Bernanke as much. Expectations for a 50 basis-point rate cut by the June 24-25 Federal Open Market Committee meeting gained steam, with the July contract pricing in about a 74% chance from about a 46% chance at Thursday's settlement.

Speaking about the expected volatility in foreign exchange markets, Gilmore said, traders don't have "the capacity to stay in a position," notably hedge funds.

"People are not willing to take large hits on a position, so risk management is much tighter, so they don't stay in something much longer," he said.

The broad outlook isn't much different for the dollar against the yen.

The dollar will likely trade lower to Y100 from its intraday high Friday of Y102.70.

Taisuke Tanaka of Lehman Brothers in Tokyo noted there is "little prospect of a sustained upward trend" for the dollar versus the yen, as seen in the latest week, "until a U.S. economic recovery kicks in, allowing the Fed to raise rates."

Risk aversion is just too high, analysts said.
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