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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Shortie - 14 Nov 2012 16:04 - 9575 of 21973

12540 July and end June lows look like the next test for the DOW if it doesn't pull back later tonight.

cynic - 14 Nov 2012 16:04 - 9576 of 21973

rather agree, and also to wait and see ...... so much volatility without any good reason

skinny - 14 Nov 2012 16:20 - 9577 of 21973

Just taken +20 from that bounce - but it looks to be weakening again.

Toya - 14 Nov 2012 16:32 - 9578 of 21973

It's all about the Fiscal Cliff - and Ireckon the weakness will continue until that is resolved, according to various reports I've been reading.

I did set up another short earlier but cashed it in much too soon!

skinny - 14 Nov 2012 16:34 - 9579 of 21973

fiscal+cliff.jpg

Toya - 14 Nov 2012 16:39 - 9580 of 21973

LOL - thanks SKINNY :)))

Toya - 14 Nov 2012 16:40 - 9581 of 21973

Set up another short FTSE from 5740 - and really lucky cos it's just spiked up there to fill it!

Shortie - 14 Nov 2012 17:04 - 9582 of 21973

The fiscal cliff is the immediate concern followed by the debt ceiling in Jan. If congress allows the cuts in the budget act to kick in it will halve the deficit but still leave more than $500 bil being added to US debt every year. With US debt currently at $16.4 trillion a debt ceiling stand off at the current rate will come by Jan.

Shortie - 14 Nov 2012 17:27 - 9583 of 21973

http://rt8.it-finance.com/FinSpreadsFlash/showimage.phtml?id=49e743641e90ea4d91220020861fa318c4b97862d62472cd29978ed9cfdd45a5&type=png

Channel support, we'll see, expect it to be broken.

skinny - 14 Nov 2012 17:28 - 9584 of 21973

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Stan - 14 Nov 2012 17:34 - 9585 of 21973

"The fiscal cliff"? Bound to be a fudge of some kind before now and Jan so shouldn't worry to much IMHO, Not that I have a clue as to what that fudge will be I might add.

Toya - 14 Nov 2012 20:47 - 9586 of 21973

Apart from the Fiscal Cliff (which I agree will certainly be fudged somehow in the end) there is also the Middle East now to consider - and I wouldn't think today's Euroland strikes will inspire much confidence State-side either.

The price of oil has jumped today apparently and "is making markets jittery"...

cynic - 14 Nov 2012 21:04 - 9587 of 21973

a seriously nasty day ..... very glad i am not over-exposed (especially if it gets frosty!)
now let's see if shortie's 12540 is going to give decent support

skinny - 15 Nov 2012 06:19 - 9588 of 21973

clfclose.gif

cynic - 15 Nov 2012 07:24 - 9589 of 21973

on an approx opening level of 5685 (FTSE) who is taking a stand in either direction as to where it will close?

ditto for Dow - cash level currently 12595 which is +25 on last night's close

my guess is that both will be ahead purely because falls, like rises, can be too far and too fast, but i doubt i shall marry money with mouth

Toya - 15 Nov 2012 07:56 - 9590 of 21973

Tricky one. I've re-set a short FTSE at 5740, having closed it yesterday at 5700 :( I may end up editing that down though - it's now looking rather optimistic.

In the US, "all 200-day moving averages have now been breached". Not sure where I would set a short for the DOW - will have a think. But wherever you choose, I reckon we are in a downward trend and so would go short rather than long.

skinny - 15 Nov 2012 07:57 - 9591 of 21973

EUR French Prelim GDP q/q 0.2% consensus 0.0% previous -0.1%

EUR German Prelim GDP q/q 0.2% consensus 0.1% previous 0.3%

Toya - 15 Nov 2012 08:06 - 9592 of 21973

Thanks Skinny.

Interesting article on MarketWatch.com:
Sell uncertainty, buy the grand bargain

Ah good - I've managed to get it to open in a separate window!

cynic - 15 Nov 2012 08:10 - 9593 of 21973

indeed an interesting article .... shall try to follow the old adage of if in doubt, do nowt

skinny - 15 Nov 2012 08:16 - 9594 of 21973

Interesting link - thanks Toya :-

"As I wrote last week, a quick deal doesn’t seem likely, and if the two sound combative after their meeting Friday, the market is going to get punished again next week."
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