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The Forex Thread (FX)     

hilary - 31 Dec 2003 13:00

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johngtudor - 07 Apr 2008 15:26 - 9580 of 11056

Look like some good Spanish Property bargains for you soon Hils!

hilary - 07 Apr 2008 16:08 - 9581 of 11056

I'd rather wait till I can see the whites of their eyes, JT. That'll be a few years yet.

:o)

hilary - 07 Apr 2008 16:40 - 9582 of 11056

I don't know if it's just coincidence but, since Avi Tiomkin's article was published at the end of last week, everything I read seems to be about Spain.

There was an article in Saturday's Torygraph, and today there have been comments from BBVA and Bank of Spain which both say that everything's sh@gged.

hilary - 07 Apr 2008 16:42 - 9583 of 11056

( TF ) 04/07 14:36
BBVA cuts Spain 2008 GDP growth forecast to 1.9 pct vs previous 2.6 pct


- MADRID (Thomson Financial) - Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria SA.'s analysts have cut their forecast for Spain's 2008 GDP growth rate to around 1.9 percent from a previous forecast last autumn of 2.6 percent.

In the bank's April 2008 study of the Spanish economic situation, BBVA said it is forecasting a GDP growth rate of between 1.7 percent and 2.2 percent growth in 2008 and between 0.8 percent and 2.0 percent in 2009.

'We expect Spain's growth rate to reach a low in the first half of 2009 before the recovery begins,' BBVA's chief economist Jose Luis Escriva said during a conference to present the study.

Escriva said both international and domestic factors had led to a sharper slowdown in Spain than was initially expected, though added that the bank's growth forecasts have an 'unusually high margin of uncertainty.'

External factors weighing on Spain's economy include higher risk premiums, lower global growth, the appreciation of the Euro to the dollar, high oil and raw material prices and a 'delay' in European Central Bank interest rates.

Within Spain, a harder-than-expected fall in residential housing sector investment has added further uncertainty to growth prospects.

Investment in Spain's housing sector will fall by 7.5 percent from a year earlier and by 14.5 percent in 2009, BBVA said.

The bank also raised its forecasts for Spain's unemployment rate in 2008 to 9.5 percent and in 2009 to 11.0 percent.

Spain's GDP grew 3.5 percent in 2007, while Spain's unemployment rate stood at 8.60 percent in the fourth quarter of 2007.

johngtudor - 07 Apr 2008 16:48 - 9584 of 11056

I also read something over the weekend from DBk, saying major European Banks were dumping their Spanish MBS at something approaching 40% of face value because they know the value is going to fall a lot further in the months ahead, and they want what they can get now. I have a friend buying some property in Spain, and I have been telling him to wait, but the pressure from 'she who must be obeyed' seems too great! Still time is on our side Hils (I think!). JT

hilary - 08 Apr 2008 07:58 - 9585 of 11056

The thing with Spanish property, JT, is that there has never been any real supply constraint. There's always been enough land for them to just build a new village whenever they've wanted. That's worked for the developer, but it just serves to devalue the market further when you get a crunch as there is now.

Anyway, cable is clearly falling on the 4 hour chart and is continuing to make lower highs and lows on the 15 minute chart.

Although the 4 hour chart suggests it's got further to fall, it's now approaching the rising blue support line which currently sits 10 pips or so below $1.98. There's still another 2 days to wait till the MPC, so I suspect it might well bide its time ahead of the Fed minutes tonight and then make a decision on direction once they're released.

hilary - 08 Apr 2008 08:05 - 9586 of 11056

08:00 *UK MARCH HOUSE PRICES DOWN 2.5 PERCENT VS FEB - HALIFAX

That's forced it down to nigh on support.

hilary - 08 Apr 2008 08:20 - 9587 of 11056

TF ) 04/08 08:17
UK March house prices down 2.5 percent vs Feb - Halifax


- LONDON (Thomson Financial) - UK house prices registered their biggest monthly fall in over 15 years in March, the country's leading mortgage lender said.

Halifax, which is part of the HBOS banking group, said house prices dropped 2.5 pct month-on-month, the biggest fall since September 1992 and much worse than the 0.4 percent fall analysts had expected, following February's fall of 0.3 percent.

The average house price in the UK in March was 191,556 pounds, down from February's 196,649 pounds, Halifax said.

In annual terms, March's prices slowed to a rise of 1.1 pct from February's 4.2 percent. The March increase was the smallest since March 1996 and below analysts' forecasts for a 2.3 percent rise.

House prices fell 1.0 percent in the first quarter from the previous quarter, the biggest fall since the second quarter of 1995.

hilary - 08 Apr 2008 08:22 - 9588 of 11056

Deleted. Posted twice. Board broke.

johngtudor - 08 Apr 2008 08:56 - 9589 of 11056

Hils, perhaps all the news is now reflected in the price and we will get a bounce. JT

hilary - 08 Apr 2008 09:00 - 9590 of 11056

Maybe, JT, but it's neither bouncing nor punching through support just now.

It's nothing more than a 50-50 call for the gamblers.

johngtudor - 08 Apr 2008 09:03 - 9591 of 11056

Agreed Hils. GBP/CHF tasty today!

Seymour Clearly - 08 Apr 2008 09:05 - 9592 of 11056

Morning all. Was short cable yesterday looking at pretty much the same chart as Hils this morning, but got stopped out for -25. Short this morning again from 1.9833, stop now in at 1.9805, looking for 9765

johngtudor - 08 Apr 2008 09:17 - 9593 of 11056

Weekly S1 at 9755.....

Seymour Clearly - 08 Apr 2008 09:25 - 9594 of 11056

Thanks JT. Now closed by limit for +68. Looks like strong support around here so will wait and see with cable. Got the day off so going to go and do something else now.

hilary - 08 Apr 2008 12:11 - 9595 of 11056

3 month Sterling Libor has been edging lower these past few days and the BoE have now announced that it is to increase the amount up for 3 month auction next week to 15bln from 10bln in an attempt to improve liquidity.

I wonder if this is a precursor to them leaving rates on hold on Thursday???

chocolat - 08 Apr 2008 12:20 - 9596 of 11056

Doesn't seem to be the consensus amongst currency traders - at least not today, after the March house price data.

Cable's dropped 100+ pips since the bank's announcement.

hilary - 08 Apr 2008 12:39 - 9597 of 11056

I realise that, Chocopops, and I'm not suggesting that anyone go out and buy a falling market. It wouldn't be the first time that the market got it wrong though. And it sure won't be the last.

But ....... as I see it, the BoE are torn between the two evils of soaring inflation and a weakening economy.

Top of the list is their remit from the Chancellor to control inflation. That's in black and white on their website. By providing liquidity to the interbank market, I wonder if the MPC might be looking to get the best of both worlds by leaving rates on hold.

It's just a hunch. I'm probably wrong.

:o)

chocolat - 08 Apr 2008 12:57 - 9598 of 11056

Sorry, Hil - I didn't think for a moment that you hadn't noticed ;)

Fwiw I do think the MPC will cut on Thursday, and this morning's announcement might serve as a gag for the 50 BPers on the board.

In the end, whatever they hand out is just another placebo.

hilary - 08 Apr 2008 12:59 - 9599 of 11056

This is how the banks have reacted to what the BoE are doing.

Today - hot off the press 20 minutes ago

STERLING

TOM/NEXT 5.15 - 5.25

7 DAY 5.20 - 5.27

1 MTH 5.53 - 5.61

3 MTHS 5.86 - 5.94

6 MTHS 5.82 - 5.90

12 MTHS 5.70 - 5.80

Yesterday lunchtime

TOM/NEXT 5.20 - 5.25

7 DAY 5.20 - 5.28

1 MTH 5.58 - 5.66

3 MTHS 5.87 - 5.95

6 MTHS 5.84 - 5.92

12 MTHS 5.70 - 5.80
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