Socrates
- 10 Jan 2004 10:34
Time now for all us Wiggins watchers to move with the times and start using Planestation, the new company identity. The name Wiggins Group plc has now disappeared from the database at Companies House and Planestation is now listed on the LSE website.
So fellow travellers, forget Wiggins, the name of the game is now PLANESTATION. Lets hope it goes like an express train.
apple
- 26 Nov 2004 12:58
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Yesterday, PTG dropped to 45p for the 2nd time & then started to tick up again.
So I bought back in, Fairlop may get the go ahead next week but if not then I'll get out & buy again after the dust has settled.
Next week could be very interesting.
apple
- 26 Nov 2004 15:37
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Buying is picking up this afternoon!
tipton11
- 26 Nov 2004 17:46
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apple I thought fairlop was turned down on Monday
apple
- 26 Nov 2004 18:05
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I thought that the decision was delayed.
It was only a delay in the publication of the decision.
You are right, it was turned down on Monday.
So that explains the drop earlier this week.
apple
- 01 Dec 2004 16:24
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Last week, I thought that I had got in at the bottom.
Well, I'm glad that I sold again the other day!
Down another 5.75%
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 11:29
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Whats happening now? SP nose diving!
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 11:31
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Interims just came out.
jeffmack
- 02 Dec 2004 11:35
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I must go read them for a laf
jeffmack
- 02 Dec 2004 11:37
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wow, 35% drop. Whatsthat in old money against the old share price, about 2p
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 11:42
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Could be a good buying opportunity here. Just scanned through the interims and on the face of it they aren't that bad. EPS has improved on last year. It's probably the director's forecast that the outlook ahead will still be tough that has caused this reaction. I shall watch this closely today and MIGHT jump in if I think its bottomed.
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 11:51
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They're begining to buy into it now.
jeffmack
- 02 Dec 2004 11:53
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DCB, watch for drop in about 2 hours
hlyeo98
- 02 Dec 2004 12:34
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Kamikaze for PTG...bail out now
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 12:43
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This drop is a bit of an over-reaction. Volume of trades is rather light considering the movement in the sp.
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 12:48
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Turning round now. More buys than sells.
hlyeo98
- 02 Dec 2004 12:54
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LONDON (AFX) - Planestation Group PLC six months to Sept 30 2004
Sales - 4.40 mln stg vs 4.51 mln
Operating loss - 6.52 mln vs loss 8.30
Pretax loss - 8.65 mln stg vs loss 5.34 mln
Loss per share - 5.9 pence vs loss 7.9
Div - none declared
OVERALL POOR PERFORMANCE
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 13:02
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hlye098 - I would disagree with your conclusion. 1.3m of the reported group operating loss is PTGs share of EUjets operating loss and therefore can be considered as an exceptional. So the actual operating loss (due to PTG alone) is 5.2m versus 8m last year - a considerable improvement.
At the base line, the loss per share has shown an improvement of over 25%.
I would agree with you that the figures aren't brilliant, but they are not that bad either. It's not as if the figures were some kind of suprise. The company had warned of difficult times ahead and this has been reflected in its share price recently.
In my opinion, the dramatic drop is a kneejerk reaction and provides an opportunity for investment. Surely it can only go up from here.
imo, dyor, etc
Caveat: This from a muppet who topped up on Myflower the day before they went int administration :>{
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 13:10
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hlyeo98 - further: Your comparison of pretax loss figures are for 6 month periods (a fair comparison) but it is worth pointing out that the pretax loss by the group for the whole of last year was 17m. Therefore you could argue that if things don't improve, this years pretax loss at the worse would be comparable with last years. In other words, not really a decline.
Sorry to be pedantic :>)
partridge
- 02 Dec 2004 14:47
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It all comes down to cash and whoever provides a lifeline, if someone comes along, is surely unlikely to do existing shareholders any favours. Recent press release about secured overdraft was in hindsight a massive clue. IMO stay away but dyor.
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 14:56
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partridge - i agree with you about the secured overdraft. This from their interims:
"On 9 November 2004, Wiggins Property Developments Ltd and Manston Car Parks Ltd
each signed a new facility agreement with the Bank of Scotland which together
provided a 3 million secured overdraft facility to the Group repayable by 5
February 2005."
It is interesting to note that the overdraft has been arranged with their own bankers and not from some other source. To agree to pay it back in what is a relatively short time span suggests that this is for some immediate project and that the company are confident to repay it. I wonder if it simply is to resurface the carpark? ('cos they're execting a lot of use!)
Interesting to see what happens.